Elgin cutlass-pistols: how many in total?

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Nor'wester

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According to this article there were 150 produced on USN contract, but I've also heard there were commercial models made. Is there any info on how many of these guns were made in total (commercial and military) and how long the total production run was?
 
According to the write up about Elgin Cutless Pistols, speaking of the commercial models, in "Flayderman's Guide to Antique American Firearms" it says, these pistols were made by two different companies. They were invented by George Elgin.

"Elgin Cutless Pistols. Made by Morrill, Mosman and Blair of Amherst, Massachusetts and C. B. Allen of Springfield, Massachusetts. Manufactured c. 1837."

It goes on to say, "Both makers produced the gun in at least two distinct sizes and there is appearently quite a wide variation from the "norm" in sizes also." (p392)

It says C.B. Allen made less than 200 (est) of these commercial guns. They had octagon barrels, 4" to 5" long in .35 to .41 caliber. The blades were approximately 7 1/2" to 10 1/2" long.

Morrill, Mosman and Blair small pistols had a round 2 7/8" long barrel in a .32 to .34 caliber. The knife was 7 1/2" to 8" long.
Their larger commercial pistol had a round barrel 4" long rifled barrel in .31 to .36 caliber. The knife length overall was 8 3/4 to 9 1/2" long.

No estimate of production was given.

The U.S. Navy model was made in 1838 by C.B. Allen. 150 were produced under Navy contract.
It was a .54 caliber smoothbore with a 5" long barrel. The Bowie knife was 11" long X 2" tall. Overall length was 17". It was supplied with a leather sheath with a wide German silver tip and throat piece. Included was a brass tipped steel loading rod.
In "fine" condition, in 2007 the estimated value of these military models was $35,000.
 
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Good stuff Zonie, thank you for sharing. I had no idea there was as much variety as their was with these guns.
 
Wish someone would make a QUALITY repro of these guns. Maybe Pedersoli?

With those blades they definitely wouldn't be legal where I am :(
But I guess for those that can have them, why not. It's a unique piece of history. I may be wrong, but I think these pistols were one of the first percussion firearms used by the US Navy.
 
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