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I don't see why not, as domestic pigs run up to 800/900lbs. in southern Ontario. You can see them every year at the fairs. Any domestic hog that gets free and runs wild, will start growing tusks inside 1 year - ain't nature wonderful?
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I saw one on the hoof that was at least 6-700. We were driving out of the lease and one ran across the road in front of us. His back was about level with the bottom of my truck window (and I don't own a low-rider). He was not overly terrified - just trotting a bit to get away from us.
I'm slightly suspicious of this story for a few reasons . Metric values . Up here in Canada we went to the metric system 20 years ago but most folks still talk in pounds , inches and miles . This is the first American hunting story that i've ever read where all of the values were totally metric . I'm open to being wrong on this one . 3.5 meters long is 11.5 feet and adjusting the hieght of the fellow in the photo and measuring the hog from the tip of it's nose to it's back feet , i can believe that . 450 kilos is 992 pounds and although , as Daryl i've seen monsterous hogs at some agricultural fairs they are all domestic pigs fed specifically to grow that large . I doubt that a feral hog foraging for food would get that big , maybe . 23 centimeter tusks . That's a shade over 9 inches . I shot a boar of 400 pounds in southern Florida on a trophy hunt and the tusks were perfectly symmetrical and the same in length at 3.5 inches . The outfitter told me that theoretically tusks can grow to any length but the longest he'd ever seen was 5 inches . By the time they get that long usually one and often both are broken off by rooting around in the ground . No doubt it's a big hog in the photo .
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Looks like the old Giant Trout photo trick to me.
I'm a commercial photographer and make my living evaluating photos. Take a look at the angle and direction of the shadows. If the guy was standing right next to the pig, some or all of him would be shadowed. The pig is obviously a long way in front of him, making it look bigger. That might be the pig shadow just peaking into the right edge of the photo, which would make me guess that the pig is 10 to 12 feet in front of him. The fact that the pig is in focus and he's not is further evidence.
If 450 kilos and 3.5 meters are involved with this pig in any way, that be the size of the hogwash tub! In a court of law, that photo and the guy's claim would land him in jail.
I'm a commercial photographer and make my living evaluating photos. Take a look at the angle and direction of the shadows. If the guy was standing right next to the pig, some or all of him would be shadowed. The pig is obviously a long way in front of him, making it look bigger. That might be the pig shadow just peaking into the right edge of the photo, which would make me guess that the pig is 10 to 12 feet in front of him. The fact that the pig is in focus and he's not is further evidence.
If 450 kilos and 3.5 meters are involved with this pig in any way, that be the size of the hogwash tub! In a court of law, that photo and the guy's claim would land him in jail.
The younger generation,kids of today seem to only know the metric system.Thats all they are taught in school.My daughter is in college an is on the honor role,always has been but she hasnt a grasp on measuring in inches or feet because she was only taught the metric system.You cant compare cenimeters to inches if all you have been taught is cenimeters.Fer her to figuare inches an feet is like me trying to figuare the metric system,i just dont want to.
Id agree that the feller in the pic is at least arms length behind the boar if not more.Being raised on a pig farm i can say that the boar is at least 550 to 650 lbs in weight.I worked a packing plant also for 5 years in their hog barn puten tatoo numbers on hogs.Biggest i ever saw was a 1200 pounder farm raised chester white boar brought in.He was one big mean looken boar with at least 4 inch tusk that slobered an chomped his teeth constantly.For as mean looken as he was he handled real good.
Id agree that the feller in the pic is at least arms length behind the boar if not more.Being raised on a pig farm i can say that the boar is at least 550 to 650 lbs in weight.I worked a packing plant also for 5 years in their hog barn puten tatoo numbers on hogs.Biggest i ever saw was a 1200 pounder farm raised chester white boar brought in.He was one big mean looken boar with at least 4 inch tusk that slobered an chomped his teeth constantly.For as mean looken as he was he handled real good.
Well, I live in Georgia and I have a couple of opinions about this story.
The first is this; I have never heard anybody down here, old or young, describe anything in metric. We do things different down here. The only metric things we use are the occasional metric wrench to work on a car.
The reason most hogs don't grow large in the wild is because of disease. These hogs are not innoculated or wormed, so their mortality rate is greater than a domestic hog.
That said in 30 years of hunting Ga. Hogs I have killed only two around 400 lbs. One of those with a .54. I have seen one a good bit larger, in fact a whole lot larger, but on the two occasions I saw him I wasn't able to get a shot. A buddy of mine hunts hogs with a dog semi-professionally, he's the kind of guy that weighs about 130 lbs soaking wet and live catches all his hogs. He says its pretty simple. Once 2 or 3 catch dogs get ahold of the nose and ears and throat, you walk up behind the hog, grab both hind legs and throw it to the ground. Then you put your knee on the shoulder and hold it down until its all trussed up. Load it on a 4 wheeler take it to a cage and feed it corn for a few months, then sell it.
He has killed one that weighed around 500 lbs and he has access to a couple of hundred thousand acres to hog hunt on.
The article is right about one thing though, wild hogs are a plague. They can have 3 litters a year and quickly overpopulate an area. They do run deer off but mostly its because they eat ALL the food and the deer have no wild mast to eat.
I think a wild hogs aggressiveness is overstated. I have had to climb a tree exactly one time in all these years, after which I started carrying a .44 Mag while bowhunting and have never had to use it. If they smell you first, they are flat "Gone"! And they have an excellent sense of smell.
But, wild hogs are like wild bears. You never know about the individual you run into until its too late.
All in all, I think the story is a fabrication. After all, this place is in the buisness of selling hunts. And the reasons given for shooting it are really fishy. A hog like that could bring a premium price from a hunter. And contrary to beliefs, large wild boar is just as good as young hog if prepared properly. A good outfitter should know how to prepare the game he hunts.
I think it is an advertising gimmick.
The first is this; I have never heard anybody down here, old or young, describe anything in metric. We do things different down here. The only metric things we use are the occasional metric wrench to work on a car.
The reason most hogs don't grow large in the wild is because of disease. These hogs are not innoculated or wormed, so their mortality rate is greater than a domestic hog.
That said in 30 years of hunting Ga. Hogs I have killed only two around 400 lbs. One of those with a .54. I have seen one a good bit larger, in fact a whole lot larger, but on the two occasions I saw him I wasn't able to get a shot. A buddy of mine hunts hogs with a dog semi-professionally, he's the kind of guy that weighs about 130 lbs soaking wet and live catches all his hogs. He says its pretty simple. Once 2 or 3 catch dogs get ahold of the nose and ears and throat, you walk up behind the hog, grab both hind legs and throw it to the ground. Then you put your knee on the shoulder and hold it down until its all trussed up. Load it on a 4 wheeler take it to a cage and feed it corn for a few months, then sell it.
He has killed one that weighed around 500 lbs and he has access to a couple of hundred thousand acres to hog hunt on.
The article is right about one thing though, wild hogs are a plague. They can have 3 litters a year and quickly overpopulate an area. They do run deer off but mostly its because they eat ALL the food and the deer have no wild mast to eat.
I think a wild hogs aggressiveness is overstated. I have had to climb a tree exactly one time in all these years, after which I started carrying a .44 Mag while bowhunting and have never had to use it. If they smell you first, they are flat "Gone"! And they have an excellent sense of smell.
But, wild hogs are like wild bears. You never know about the individual you run into until its too late.
All in all, I think the story is a fabrication. After all, this place is in the buisness of selling hunts. And the reasons given for shooting it are really fishy. A hog like that could bring a premium price from a hunter. And contrary to beliefs, large wild boar is just as good as young hog if prepared properly. A good outfitter should know how to prepare the game he hunts.
I think it is an advertising gimmick.
I dont anything about wild hogs,only saw a few razor backs a feller bought to turn loose so he could shootem later on.
The boar in the pic looks more like a wooly farm raised hog.The color alone tells me it is out of a Duroc breed,which is red.If it cross breeds with some of the other breeds you can get the brown ones.It may be a farm hog that was a hefty weight that escaped.He is a big pig anyway you look at it.
My dad used to have so many sows some years we didnt have the buildings fer all off em so he let them run wild some of them in the timber.The sow would build a nest an have the pigs.Eventually she would bring the litter up to feed an we would catchem.The sows with the pigs in the woods are mighty cranky an you stayed away from em.They chase you on site if you were very close.Whyat ever a person does dont catch a little piglet.When he squeels moma is gonna be right on you.Even in a pen if a piglet gets stuck in the fence an squeels i have seen the sow bite it to pieces.They go totally physico.You could have as many sows that are in the area upon you in seconds if you get a pig squeeling.
If a hog is ever after anyone it is best to run up a tree or somewares to get away.They are like a rhino with a head as hard as a rock.There only weekness is their snout.The round part on the end with the nostril holes.You popem there an they will stop in there tracks.If you miss be ready to be flantened like a pancake and chewed up real good.If theres more than one an they get you down they is a real good chance you will become there supper if no one is around to save you. :what:
The boar in the pic looks more like a wooly farm raised hog.The color alone tells me it is out of a Duroc breed,which is red.If it cross breeds with some of the other breeds you can get the brown ones.It may be a farm hog that was a hefty weight that escaped.He is a big pig anyway you look at it.
My dad used to have so many sows some years we didnt have the buildings fer all off em so he let them run wild some of them in the timber.The sow would build a nest an have the pigs.Eventually she would bring the litter up to feed an we would catchem.The sows with the pigs in the woods are mighty cranky an you stayed away from em.They chase you on site if you were very close.Whyat ever a person does dont catch a little piglet.When he squeels moma is gonna be right on you.Even in a pen if a piglet gets stuck in the fence an squeels i have seen the sow bite it to pieces.They go totally physico.You could have as many sows that are in the area upon you in seconds if you get a pig squeeling.
If a hog is ever after anyone it is best to run up a tree or somewares to get away.They are like a rhino with a head as hard as a rock.There only weekness is their snout.The round part on the end with the nostril holes.You popem there an they will stop in there tracks.If you miss be ready to be flantened like a pancake and chewed up real good.If theres more than one an they get you down they is a real good chance you will become there supper if no one is around to save you. :what:
I agree with BrownBear,
It looks like a photo of some guy standing behind it trying to dispose of a dead pig - dig a hole with a backhoe, tie the dead animal to the bucket and hoist it into the hole - had to do that with a horse one time.
It looks like a photo of some guy standing behind it trying to dispose of a dead pig - dig a hole with a backhoe, tie the dead animal to the bucket and hoist it into the hole - had to do that with a horse one time.
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There is a huge wall sized photo in the Bass Pro store in Katy Mills near Houston, of a guy with a big hog. It's been several months since I was there but I recall that it was a Russian mixed blood, killed in either Georgia or Florida on a guided hunt and I think that it was around 1200 lbs. Does anyone here live near Houston or frequent that store?
We primarily have feral hogs in Texas. There may be Russian blood but most are descendants of animals that got loose years ago from settlers and reproduced. I have seen them in brown, white, red, black and painted hues. They are mainly nocturnal and hole up in very heavy terrain during the day. We have the most success in using bait and cage traps but they can sometimes be seen in early morning or late day. The reason some get pretty big here is that they can eat agricultural crops all year round so other than having to walk, they can stay in a fairly small area and eat 24 hours a day. They are a pest and destroy millions of dollars in food per year so they are considered a varmint and may be hunted at any time, by any method.
We primarily have feral hogs in Texas. There may be Russian blood but most are descendants of animals that got loose years ago from settlers and reproduced. I have seen them in brown, white, red, black and painted hues. They are mainly nocturnal and hole up in very heavy terrain during the day. We have the most success in using bait and cage traps but they can sometimes be seen in early morning or late day. The reason some get pretty big here is that they can eat agricultural crops all year round so other than having to walk, they can stay in a fairly small area and eat 24 hours a day. They are a pest and destroy millions of dollars in food per year so they are considered a varmint and may be hunted at any time, by any method.
It may be true, but if so he is the worst businessman in Georgia.
So, basically he killed it because he was afraid someone else would, but he didn't want it ??? That's a first-grader's reasoning.
This guy could have made a fortune raffling off a chance to harvest the world's largest "feral" hog. (I'm sorry - but I don't believe feral hogs live within fences . . . we won't go there).
And a place that "sells" hunts wouldn't want that hanging over the gate for the rubes to see when they came in for a hunt? Or, resting on his knee in a advertising pamphlet. Or, hanging over a garage door (It's not as big as the moose head a neighbor used to have on his garage).
I'm thinking the photo might be some volunteer fireman getting ready for a pig roast done in a pit. Don't know about Georgia, but in most southern states that porker would have been sectioned and barbequed whether it was a hundred years old or two months dead. :: So, this guy burries almost a thousands pounds of hog? No one throws out 500 lbs +/- of pork, even here in NY. NEVER heard of a hog too tough for pulled pork.
So, basically he killed it because he was afraid someone else would, but he didn't want it ??? That's a first-grader's reasoning.
This guy could have made a fortune raffling off a chance to harvest the world's largest "feral" hog. (I'm sorry - but I don't believe feral hogs live within fences . . . we won't go there).
And a place that "sells" hunts wouldn't want that hanging over the gate for the rubes to see when they came in for a hunt? Or, resting on his knee in a advertising pamphlet. Or, hanging over a garage door (It's not as big as the moose head a neighbor used to have on his garage).
I'm thinking the photo might be some volunteer fireman getting ready for a pig roast done in a pit. Don't know about Georgia, but in most southern states that porker would have been sectioned and barbequed whether it was a hundred years old or two months dead. :: So, this guy burries almost a thousands pounds of hog? No one throws out 500 lbs +/- of pork, even here in NY. NEVER heard of a hog too tough for pulled pork.
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Heck, - it would be real simple to dig it up now and pull the skull off. That would verify skeleton size and the head could be a European mount. I agree with you guys that the story has some holes (not made by PRB either) :haha:
:agree: Stumpkiller... the business aspects of having a mount from a "wild hog" of that size would be worth much more then the cost of the mount. There are people out there that do not care whether they shot the thing or not, they pay huge prices to own a trophy mount to hang in their homes.
Think of some rib joint with the world's record pig on display. Come on in and eat some ribs while you look at this monster.... And he dug a hole and buried it :huh:.
When I read the newspaper artical about "Hogzilla" and saw the picture (by the way in the artical I read it was not explained in metric terms) the first thing that screamed at me was they did nothing with the animal except bury it...
I suspect it was a farm raised boar that finally outlived his usefulness and was put down. Many times, farmers will just bury the animal instead of processing them. I think someone was impressed with the size of the animal and the situation at the time, and snapped a picture or two for prosperity.
The clincher was like you said, they have a world record hog on their place, they sell hunts for hogs, but did not want anyone else shooting the thing..... :what:
Think of some rib joint with the world's record pig on display. Come on in and eat some ribs while you look at this monster.... And he dug a hole and buried it :huh:.
When I read the newspaper artical about "Hogzilla" and saw the picture (by the way in the artical I read it was not explained in metric terms) the first thing that screamed at me was they did nothing with the animal except bury it...
I suspect it was a farm raised boar that finally outlived his usefulness and was put down. Many times, farmers will just bury the animal instead of processing them. I think someone was impressed with the size of the animal and the situation at the time, and snapped a picture or two for prosperity.
The clincher was like you said, they have a world record hog on their place, they sell hunts for hogs, but did not want anyone else shooting the thing..... :what:
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FAKE!!!
I agree way big time with you! I'm NOT a commercial photographer, but have a bit more knowledge than the average bear (forgive me, PUN ALERT!) as I was a police detective for 10 years, Chief Investigator for three of those ten and well schooled in crime scene photography.
While I don't have the prefessional skills you have, I could spot the faked picture pretty quick and the METRIC lingo jest don' happen in that region.
'Nuther investigators tool, watching for unusual accents, dress, language for the region and so forth.
:blah: :blah: To mister piggy, "A" for effort, "F" for detail!
FAKE!!!
I agree way big time with you! I'm NOT a commercial photographer, but have a bit more knowledge than the average bear (forgive me, PUN ALERT!) as I was a police detective for 10 years, Chief Investigator for three of those ten and well schooled in crime scene photography.
While I don't have the prefessional skills you have, I could spot the faked picture pretty quick and the METRIC lingo jest don' happen in that region.
'Nuther investigators tool, watching for unusual accents, dress, language for the region and so forth.
:blah: :blah: To mister piggy, "A" for effort, "F" for detail!
Don't know if it's a fake or not, but have these comments, my local newspaper here in the NC mtns printed the story using "English" i.e. non metric, specs. Two friends of mine, hunting near Lenoir, NC killed a hog that was in the range 690 lbs..heavy enough that, when the hoisted it by a rear leg, the leg pulled off...I've been hunting hogs, Russian and feral both, here in western NC for 25 years, and that was the biggest I, or anyone I know, ever heard of. OK..my vote, he shot a big hog(not 1,000lbs) but faked the picture...Hank
Oh come on guys!! I'm no country boy, only time I saw a hog up close was when I visited a friend at aggie/tech college out on Long Island N Y , and to this city boy that darn thing was big enough to make me want to leave the area. OK , that said, I have seen enough fake photos to see that this one is two images put together. Metric hunting story, come on, I might be ugly, but I'm not out of touch with reality! However, it sure did generate some responses!! :imo: :m2c:
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I agree fake!
Possible..... Maybe. Probable definitely not!
No one would bury that much pork. Heh Stumpy! :nono: Especialy if he sold hog hunts!
I also noticed the rope is big as the guys arm.
Chuck
Possible..... Maybe. Probable definitely not!
No one would bury that much pork. Heh Stumpy! :nono: Especialy if he sold hog hunts!
I also noticed the rope is big as the guys arm.
Chuck
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After reading all these responses, and actually reading the text of the story as well as taking a second look at the picture - BULLFEATHERS!!- look closely & YES - hog is not just a couple feet in front of the person standing there, like I originally thought, It is WAY out in front - rope size is interesting as well - certainly not common to have around and definitley NOT the hawser or 18th century anchor rope it's portraited to be (by being in the picture, looking as big as the man's arm)-that factor was noted above as well.
; The fact they are saying it is twice a 6' man's height- says they are trying to tell the reader it's right beside the man- "NEXT" is the word used instead of being way out in front of him - BTW why isn't he in focus then, just like the hog? I mean- he's WAYYYY out of focus.
; I guided big game hunters in Northern B.C. back in the late 70's, and EVERY hunter wanted his fish and game pictures taken with him WAAAYYYYYY behind, thinking it would fool people into thinking it was a giant - I can see that some folks might swallow this hog-wash, but that most see through it & despise those who stand Waaaaayyyy behind the object being taken.
; I tried to tell these hunters that all photos taken with the person BEHIND or holding the fish forward not only looked phoney but looked silly and the odd one would concede and let me set up the photo, hold the bear's head in their lapp, or nose at their toe, fish cradled in the arm, but most still wanted to make the photo appear that the animal or fish was WAAAAYYYY bigger than it really was - I just can't figure such game fakery or why people think they're fooling anyone other than themselves.
; Oh BTW - the reason the measurments are given in Metric lingo is for impressing Europeans - That's standard practise for advertising in Europe.
: If tusks are twice as long OUT OF THE SKULL as they are in, then I suppose a WILD boar might have 9" tusks, but only 4.5" stick out of the lip. shouldn't such a BIG tusk be visible in the picture? I see a tongue. Probably weighs a good 300 to 450lbs. though- I believe it is a descent sized hog, but not the giant it is being sold as.
; The fact they are saying it is twice a 6' man's height- says they are trying to tell the reader it's right beside the man- "NEXT" is the word used instead of being way out in front of him - BTW why isn't he in focus then, just like the hog? I mean- he's WAYYYY out of focus.
; I guided big game hunters in Northern B.C. back in the late 70's, and EVERY hunter wanted his fish and game pictures taken with him WAAAYYYYYY behind, thinking it would fool people into thinking it was a giant - I can see that some folks might swallow this hog-wash, but that most see through it & despise those who stand Waaaaayyyy behind the object being taken.
; I tried to tell these hunters that all photos taken with the person BEHIND or holding the fish forward not only looked phoney but looked silly and the odd one would concede and let me set up the photo, hold the bear's head in their lapp, or nose at their toe, fish cradled in the arm, but most still wanted to make the photo appear that the animal or fish was WAAAAYYYY bigger than it really was - I just can't figure such game fakery or why people think they're fooling anyone other than themselves.
; Oh BTW - the reason the measurments are given in Metric lingo is for impressing Europeans - That's standard practise for advertising in Europe.
: If tusks are twice as long OUT OF THE SKULL as they are in, then I suppose a WILD boar might have 9" tusks, but only 4.5" stick out of the lip. shouldn't such a BIG tusk be visible in the picture? I see a tongue. Probably weighs a good 300 to 450lbs. though- I believe it is a descent sized hog, but not the giant it is being sold as.
