Euroarms Remington info needed

[oldguy24]

Brand new to this forum and have a question regarding a Euroarms 1858 Remington that I picked up awhile back. I have done as much research as I can and have determined that it was built in 1971 (XX7), maker is DGG, marked Euroarms Brescia-Italy, 44 cal New Army Model, Made in Italy under the ramrod along with the DGG initials, no markings anywhere for the blackpowder only warning, serial is 9604. It also appears that it is patterned after the earlier Beals frame instead of the later frame design. It does not appear to have been fired as there is no drag line in the cylinder and little to no wear in the cylinder face. That's what I do know, what I have not been able to find out is whether or not this is a quality piece, should be a long term shooter or is it prone to breakage, a keeper or ought to be looking for a better specimen. Any information you guys have in your vast experiences regarding this revolver would be greatly appreciated. I always appreciate opinions of those with more knowledge than I have so please chime in with your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

 

[Nobade]

I don't know a huge amount about them but I have one just like it and have been shooting it for many years. Never had a problem, it seems to be a nice well made revolver. I did make a new front sight for it to get it to hit where it is aimed. Otherwise it's all stock and works great.

 

[oldguy24]

Thank you for that info, good to know that they are worth keeping as a shooter. Much appreciated as I don't really have any resources here if anything is needed for one of these.

 

[Jappo]

DGG Doninelli, Grassi and Gazzola. Also the mark of Armi San Paolo and Euroarms. Founded in 1970. They were also in the modern arms industry. Mostly small caliber pistols. I have seen many of these revolvers and seem to be made of good quality. Had some that needed minor repairs. Never seen one I couldn't fix. For the exception of badly abused or neglected. The abused ones were mostly the brass with battered recoil shields. They are good candidates for Confederate replica revolvers as a lot of them have no engraving on the cylinder and the round barrels. Griswolds, Schneiders and Rigdons.

Jappo

 

[Jappo]

DGG Doninelli, Grassi and Gazzola. Also the mark of Armi San Paolo and Euroarms. Founded in 1970. They were also in the modern arms industry. Mostly small caliber pistols. I have seen many of these revolvers and seem to be made of good quality. Had some that needed minor repairs. Never seen one I couldn't fix. For the exception of badly abused or neglected. The abused ones were mostly the brass with battered recoil shields. They are good candidates for Confederate replica revolvers as a lot of them have no engraving on the cylinder and the round barrels. Griswolds, Schneiders and Rigdons.

Jappo

Also this site might be helpful. I've found a lot of good information on it.

https://www.capandballrevolvers.com/MAKERS_AND_IMPORTERS

 

[hawkeye2]

Actually other than the lack of visible threads on the barrel there is nothing similar to a Beals there and it is pure New Model Army (1863) otherwise and it isn't a copy of the Old Model Army (1861) either. Most folks wouldn't know that so just shoot it and enjoy it for what it is. EOA/DGG/Euroarms are good quality revolvers, better than most that have come and gone.

 

[CaptainKirk]

Actually other than the lack of visible threads on the barrel there is nothing similar to a Beals there and it is pure New Model Army (1863) otherwise and it isn't a copy of the Old Model Army (1861) either. Most folks wouldn't know that so just shoot it and enjoy it for what it is. EOA/DGG/Euroarms are good quality revolvers, better than most that have come and gone.

I realize this is a zombie thread, but...what he said.^^^^^^^^^^
DGG is Armi San Paolo, later AKA Euroarms. The early ones all had the low scoop barrel cutout, it's nowhere near a Beals and the Beals was almost flush with little to no arch.
I have several of these DGG Remingtons and they are very good revolvers; way closer to scale than the current crop of Piettas.

 

[bankrobber]

Brand new to this forum and have a question regarding a Euroarms 1858 Remington that I picked up awhile back. I have done as much research as I can and have determined that it was built in 1971 (XX7), maker is DGG, marked Euroarms Brescia-Italy, 44 cal New Army Model, Made in Italy under the ramrod along with the DGG initials, no markings anywhere for the blackpowder only warning, serial is 9604. It also appears that it is patterned after the earlier Beals frame instead of the later frame design. It does not appear to have been fired as there is no drag line in the cylinder and little to no wear in the cylinder face. That's what I do know, what I have not been able to find out is whether or not this is a quality piece, should be a long term shooter or is it prone to breakage, a keeper or ought to be looking for a better specimen. Any information you guys have in your vast experiences regarding this revolver would be greatly appreciated. I always appreciate opinions of those with more knowledge than I have so please chime in with your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

Right side under chamber and above trigger, first stamp is proofing house, second stamp is PM which is the mark for Black Powder, then is your date stamp. It will be located on chamber also.

I have an AF date stamp 1980

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I realize this is a zombie thread, but...what he said.^^^^^^^^^^
DGG is Armi San Paolo, later AKA Euroarms. The early ones all had the low scoop barrel cutout, it's nowhere near a Beals and the Beals was almost flush with little to no arch.
I have several of these DGG Remingtons and they are very good revolvers; way closer to scale than the current crop of Piettas.

Nah it isn't really a "zombie" thread until at least a year old...

I did make a new front sight for it to get it to hit where it is aimed. Otherwise it's all stock and works great.

I have an Armi-San Marco version and mine has a dovetailed front sight post, so I got lucky. It isn't unusual for folks to re-do the front sight post when it's the sort that does not allow drifting of its position for alignment.

..., whether or not this is a quality piece, should be a long term shooter or is it prone to breakage, a keeper or ought to be looking for a better specimen.

All in all I think you have a pretty good specimen. As for durability, as long as you're not launching max loads and going to the range with it every week, it should last a very long while. Since it's an older version it likely has chambers with parallel walls instead of the tapered chambers that seem to be coming out of Italy these days.

LD

 

[Smokerr]

The 76 ASP NMA my wife gave me has tapered chambers. No lead ring shaved but has a good seal.

Overall very nice but the bolt timing was all wrong though I cut and fitted a Pietta bolt to work.

Sure is a nice finish though its more a modern blue than a replica finish.

 

[bankrobber]

Brand new to this forum and have a question regarding a Euroarms 1858 Remington that I picked up awhile back. I have done as much research as I can and have determined that it was built in 1971 (XX7), maker is DGG, marked Euroarms Brescia-Italy, 44 cal New Army Model, Made in Italy under the ramrod along with the DGG initials, no markings anywhere for the blackpowder only warning, serial is 9604. It also appears that it is patterned after the earlier Beals frame instead of the later frame design. It does not appear to have been fired as there is no drag line in the cylinder and little to no wear in the cylinder face. That's what I do know, what I have not been able to find out is whether or not this is a quality piece, should be a long term shooter or is it prone to breakage, a keeper or ought to be looking for a better specimen. Any information you guys have in your vast experiences regarding this revolver would be greatly appreciated. I always appreciate opinions of those with more knowledge than I have so please chime in with your thoughts. Thanks in advance.

It's also a model RM200, note the sight . Mine is a RM300 produced with target sights.
Everything can be found at euroarms.net

 

[hawkeye2]

I have no idea why that web site is still up but Euroarms/EOA has been gone since about 2008 if I remember. I used to be set up as a dealer through them but don't remember doing any business with them because of their pricing setup and preferred to buy from Taylor's & Co. The photo was taken about 25 months ago and EOA was about in the middle of the construction site in a row of semi-rundown buildings. There is a block of multi story condominiums there now.