**** fat for tallow?

[Juice Jaws]

Uhm, you might wanna check on that,,

You are right, all this time I thought they were in the bear family, but they are not, they are in the procyonid family. Thanks necchi for keeping me honest

 

[Carbon 6]

**** is part of the Bear Family...just like a Fisher is part of the weasel family

No, bears are part of the Ursidae Family.
The family Ursidae comprises 8 species of bears in five genera: brown bears, polar bears, American black bears, Asian black bears, sun bears, sloth bears, spectacled bears and the Giant Panda. Members of this family are distributed from the Arctic coasts to tropical jungles. The bear family is one of five families of dog-like mammals descended from the wolf-like Vulperines.


Raccoons are part of the Procyonidae family. Procyonids belong to the mammalian order Carnivora. They evolved in the tropics, diverging from ursids about 30–50 million years ago. They include,
raccoons, coatis, kinkajous, olingos, olinguitos, ringtails and cacomistles.

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[BillinOregon]

I've still got some beaver oil rendered from a winter trapping season maybe 10 years ago, but I have kept it frozen. Interesting stuff.
When we were rendering it, we let the cats have the "cracklins" and they went kind of goofy, like they do with catnip.

 

[Einsiedler]

Remember my grandmaw telling me that her dad treated his trace reins, bridles, and collars, etc with possum fat he rendered. He was a cotton farmer and sharecropper. Ran a few cows too.
He kept it in a big patent medicine bottle on a shelf in the kitchen. Once one of her sisters gave little brother a dose of it ( thinking it was medicine) as he was sick and she was detailed to stay back with him at house. Everyone else had to go chop cotton. Little Uncle Buddy got better!

 

[dixie5032]

Taste Maybe ? From dietary or minor genetic differences, I don't know. I would think it to be quite similar since beef and buffalo are in the same family. They can even be inter bred, then you would have Beefalo tallow.
A cow is basically a domesticated bison with a lot of selective breeding.

Thanks Carbon 6. Just wondering from the standpoint of using it in a mix of tallow and beeswax. I should have been more specific...

 

[tenngun]

No, bears are part of the Ursidae Family.
The family Ursidae comprises 8 species of bears in five genera: brown bears, polar bears, American black bears, Asian black bears, sun bears, sloth bears, spectacled bears and the Giant Panda. Members of this family are distributed from the Arctic coasts to tropical jungles. The bear family is one of five families of dog-like mammals descended from the wolf-like Vulperines.


Raccoons are part of the Procyonidae family. Procyonids belong to the mammalian order Carnivora. They evolved in the tropics, diverging from ursids about 30–50 million years ago. They include,
raccoons, coatis, kinkajous, olingos, olinguitos, ringtails and cacomistles.

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Bears are also order carnorva also. Bears and *****. Are same order different family.

 

[Carbon 6]

So are dogs, house cats, otters and seals.

 

[M. De Land]

When I was very young we killed hogs and rendered lard. Big black kettel and hickory fire under it . I've tried many different lubes since the late 60's and lately have settled on lamb and deer tallow. Now I don't know how the lamb was done but the deer I do know. I got some water boiling (212 degrees or so. different at different sea levels) and put the deer fat in in small pcs. after a while I dipped the left over pcs out and let cool. I skimmed the top and let that dry. I was very firm but not rock hard. This seems to work rather good for patch lube. or has so far. I don't know how **** fat would do if it was rendered like this. I know I was glad to have watched the gentleman on youtube to see this method. Again thanks Keith.

I killed a large black bear last year( about 400 lbs) and rendered about 40 lbs of fat from him. I got the idea of using a crock pot which is a slow cooker and it worked fabulously. Cut the raw fat up in chunks, set the crock pot on medium for twelve hours , put the lid on and let her slow cook. After twelve hours I strained through cheese cloth. It comes out amber then solidifies to pure white. Wound up with about 2.5 gallons so that should last as long as I'll ever need any.
I've read bear fat rendered properly will not freeze up like other animal fat but don't know this to be true from my own experience. I do know that black bear is one of my favorite wild game meats if they haven't been into the salmon. Caribou is a close second even to Dall sheep and moose, in my opinion.

 

[Shooter1]

I killed a large black bear last year( about 400 lbs) and rendered about 40 lbs of fat from him. I got the idea of using a crock pot which is a slow cooker and it worked fabulously. Cut the raw fat up in chunks, set the crock pot on medium for twelve hours , put the lid on and let her slow cook. After twelve hours I strained through cheese cloth. It comes out amber then solidifies to pure white. Wound up with about 2.5 gallons so that should last as long as I'll ever need any.
I've read bear fat rendered properly will not freeze up like other animal fat but don't know this to be true from my own experience. I do know that black bear is one of my favorite wild game meats if they haven't been into the salmon. Caribou is a close second even to Dall sheep and moose, in my opinion.

Wouldn't last that long here. Makes great flaky pie crust and biscuits..Did you process some of the meat into salami ? It's great too.

 

[RHensley]

I've had the deer tallow about 2-3 lbs of it in the freezer now for about 3 months and it's still slick as snot. Now it's froze solid but slick. On a pree lubed patch I believe it'll work good. Now I'm not in Alaska or places that cold but here in TN it's very seldom it gets below 0 degrees F. so I think I'm gonna like.

 

[M. De Land]

Wouldn't last that long here. Makes great flaky pie crust and biscuits..Did you process some of the meat into salami ? It's great too.

No , stakes and roasts only!

 

[smo]

Uhm, you might wanna check on that,,

I thought that’s where the name Coonibear traps came from....
LOL , Learn something new every day...

 

[watopeka]

Did a few jars of **** oil, didn’t go rancid, had for a few years good on leather good on patches.
Bear is clear ,**** darker.
Each our own.

 

[rich pierce]

**** or other greasy fats are rendered into oils like bear oil. Work fine as patch lubes but obviously are low viscosity and not suitable for a tallow hole.

One reason bear oil is favored is you kill one critter and get gallons of oil. No special qualities over other greasy fats. Even chicken fat works as a lube. Just doesn’t sound as cool.

 

[Nessmuck56]

No, bears are part of the Ursidae Family.
The family Ursidae comprises 8 species of bears in five genera: brown bears, polar bears, American black bears, Asian black bears, sun bears, sloth bears, spectacled bears and the Giant Panda. Members of this family are distributed from the Arctic coasts to tropical jungles. The bear family is one of five families of dog-like mammals descended from the wolf-like Vulperines.


Raccoons are part of the Procyonidae family. Procyonids belong to the mammalian order Carnivora. They evolved in the tropics, diverging from ursids about 30–50 million years ago. They include,
raccoons, coatis, kinkajous, olingos, olinguitos, ringtails and cacomistles.

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Close Relations to the bear family

 

[Carbon 6]

Close Relations to the bear family

You can say the same thing about chimpanzees and humans. In fact all life on earth is related at some level.

 

[Nessmuck56]

You can say the same thing about chimpanzees and humans. In fact all life on earth is related at some level.

Yah...What Evah

 

[rich pierce]

Procyonidae is about as close to Canidae as it is to Ursidae. A lot can happen in 20 million years I guess. Main difference for lube discussions is grease fat versus tallow fat and how they work and are carried. Tallow fats obviously easier to carry as they are more solid than liquid at middling temperatures.

 

[tenngun]

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Close Relations to the bear family

All a mater of degree. ***** are more like bears then they are like deer or horses. Bears deer and horses are more like each other then they are like kangaroos or opossums bears and opossums are more like each other then they are like crocks or birds. And bears and crocks are more like each other then they are like giant Squids.
***** are closer to bears then they are to cats or or dogs.
Deer and moose are closer then ***** and bear, but ***** and bear are closer then deer and pronghorn.

 

[spudnut]

**** are in the weasel family