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Bucks Co. Flinter! ::
Didn't have much time to play with loads, started with 20 grains Swiss 3fg, patch cut at muzzle, Hornady swagged ball. .018 ticking, Bore Butter lube. At 25 yards 5 shots into an inch, low at 6 o'clock.
not good 'nuf.
Upped the charge to 30 grains , same powder, moose snot lube, impact came up about 1" and 5 shots went into 1/2".
BETTER! :applause:
Problem is I had several flashes, no boom. Primed with both Elephant 3f and Swiss 4f. Pick in vent hole, no pick in vent hole. Beats me? Suggestions?
 
Well, I don't know if you are swabbing between shots or not, but sometimes when I do, I get snot in the vent and it gives me grief. Don't remember what barrel you have and of course they all shoot a little different, but with my 42" Colerain, my likes a .395 ball and 25gr. 3F Swiss for 25yds. and then I just double that for 100yds. I will say she sure cracks with 50gr. of 3F Swiss, but the groundhogs don't know that.
 
I swab twixt shots. Might be clogging the vent, and it IS a 42" Colrain.
Is 1/2" at 25 yards "good nuff"?
 
I swab twixt shots. Might be clogging the vent, and it IS a 42" Colrain.
Is 1/2" at 25 yards "good nuff"?

Drill the vent hole out to 9/16 inch, that should open it up enough to prevent flash-in-the-pans... :haha:

For all the new members here, I'm joking...

Vent pick between shots, is the vent a removable liner type?

If so, remove it and check the back side of the liner, could have a rough spot that's catching chunks of fouling, might need beveled a bit more as well...
 
I've started coning the outside of the vent liner also. I've not shot any of my rifles I've done that to enough to say for absolute certain that it helps but it certainly appears to.

Vic
 
Maxi:
1: If it is flashing in the pan you are having a problem with vent blockage. Take a large gem clip & open out one leg of it & use needlenose pliers & make the tip about a 1/2" arc. Swab the bore & then put that clip in the vent with the arc towards the muzzle. Load the rifle & then take the pick out & insure the hole is open.

2: Be fure to wipe the flint, frizzen, pan every time after you shoot.. I use an old tee shirt & I just put material over my finger, wet the tip with saliva & then I wipe Under the flint & top of it, then the frizzen, then the pan, in this sequence. When done if it looks moist I wipe it with a dry part of the tee shirt material. ( I shoot, swab, wipe frizzen, put in vent pick, reload, remove pick, prime, shoot again, etc.

3: You may be using way to thick a patch to swab with & clogging the vent. I see this happen ALL the time at the range. Guys swabing with a shooting patch & just pushing all that crud down into the breech & 10 shots later, no boom. Swabbing should be done with light material so the cruds can push past the front land of the swab & the material gather & grab the cruds on the stroke out. Down & back ONE TIME. We are not cleaning the bore, we are trying to make the bore consistant from shot to shot. Use old tee shirt material to swab with, swab down & back one time.

4: You may have to open the vent hole up slightly. Start with a 1/16" drill & see how that does. (but I think that is what it is) I leave them small as I don't know what each individual will want. Some want them real small, some want them real big. Now if you want it really fast ignition, run a 5/64" drill bit in it & you will see a REAL difference in ignition time, as it will be fast. You will get some powder trickle out the 5/64" hole when loading if you don't use a pick, but I always use a pick so it is not an issue with me. I use a 5/64" hole on all of my rifles from .40 cal. & up. If it were me I would drill it out to 5/64" but that is entirely up to you. And just FYI, it has a 5/16" Chambers White Lightning vent liner, beieve me, it is coned on the inside ! The inside cone on that vent holds about 2 grains of powder and they are the best vent liner on the market.

When I test fired the rifle I used Lehigh Lube and do all the swabbing with Lehigh also, and I had only one pan flash in over 50 shots. From the records I have, I shot it over 50 times in 2 dif. days after building. (25 the first day & then well over 25 the second day) I had one pan flash & it was the 38th shot. Wiped it all off, cleaned the vent hole out & shot it another 15+ times with no problems. (I quit counting them after 50 shots) It had no more pan flashes or ignition problems after that. Now how it will do with other lubes I cannot tell ya, as all I use is Lehigh or my own liquid lube.

But as I said, drill it out to a 5/64" vent hole, swab with a Tee shirt patch & saliva or Lehigh & your ignition problems will end.
Don't swab with a shooting patch, use a tee shirt patch. Take your cell phone to the range with you & if you have a problem with it, call me from there.
 
I believe in large vents...TC's redesigned vents are heavily coned inside and out...you can see the grains of powder perched in the .075" hole...ignition seems instantaneous.
Only had a couple flashes-in-the-pan in over two years and it was always at the range during heavy humidity after many, many shots...I think the whole vent/breech area gets soupy and kills the powder...flushed everything out with alcohol and go back shooting.

Winter time here is the best time to shoot with low winter humidity...just shoot and shoot...and that's when I see those little flecks of red leftover in dry pan residue...don't know if the red flecks are related to dry conditions, or if that's the only time I can see them since they're not immediately dissolved in soup
 
Thanks everyone. Remember I'm still a rookie with flinters and have a lot to learn. It took me a half and hour to figure out where the #11 cap went! :haha: :haha: :bull:
 
It took me a half and hour to figure out where the #11 cap went! :haha: :haha: :bull:

It goes here...

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Ohhhhhhhhhh, I'm going to get the wrath of the percussion section for that one...

I have a percussion gun too, can't figure where to place the flints either... :haha:
 
bd6:
as usual I was runing out of time and was in a hurry and just wanted to see where the sights were for me.
to be perefectly honest several "flashes in the pan" were because I FORGOT powder. :redface: :redface:
Also I forgot to pick the vent several times, so much of this misfire thing is due to "hurry-up-ites".
I'll do more shooting with it when I can devote a little more time with less distractions.
 
Maxi: Everytime I get in a hurry I forget something, and it is usually the Powder ! ha ha !

Had a feller tell me one time that he had Never dryballed one... I proptly told him he has not shot very much either !! ha ha !

You will figure it out..... Be patient. It will do just as good as you master to handle it....

:winking:
 
Shooting flintlocks is habbit forming, beware...

Wont be long before you'll want a flintlock smoothbore...
 
Shotguns anyhow are to me muzzleloading best kept secret. Also, did you ever notice how quickly you can dryball a gun and then how long it takes to squeeze enough 4F through the vent to shoot it out? Really jerks my chain when I do that. :(
 
I know a lot of people do it, and some liners are shaped that way with screw slots and allen key fepresions, but - you really shouldn't cone the outside of the vent liner or barrel as this moves the 'hole' away from the flash.
; The proper method is to deepen the cone on the inside to peopr depth, leaving about 1/16" of steel to the outside of the barrel. That allows the powder charge to sit as closely to the pan as possible.
 
A word of caution, if you do load a dry ball (no powder) and work enough FFFFg into the breech through the vent, be sure to seat the ball on the powder...

Make sure you get enough powder in the breech so the ball doesn't cover the vent hole (from the inside) when it's pushed all the way down, this can happen on breeches that are non-patten types...
 

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