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Here is a knife I made yesterday, Its forged from an old lawn mower blade. I made another from the same stuff and it holds a real good edge. This one has a 9 1/4 inch blade and is 14 3/4 inches over all. The bolster is made from pewter and it has a copper pommel you can't see in the picture.
The Antler antler handle hung on the barn for a few years and was dry and bleached out so I used some of the Old Bone Dye to give it some color but would like to seal it with something. I was thing about Tung Oil or even Linseed Oil, any thoughts.
Thanks for looking,
Jeff
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well after you do the stain or whatever put on a good coat of renisance wax. keep in mind that tung oil is NOT a good protective coating at all. With a good coating of renisance wax you can submerge it in saltwater for weeks and have no sign of damage at all.

generaly if it's wood you want to stabilize it, I use WSSI for that. stabilizing makes it more resistance to warping, cracking, etc... the home kitchen stabilizing is not even close to the same thing and will never yield the same type results.

Ed
 
Jeff,
I am no smithy, knife maker or even woodworker for that matter but I'm just
wondering
(dangerous for me) But why after you are satified
with the color etc not rub in down with beeswax,
buff it off. Do this several times until you are
satisfied that it is sealed. Just a thought :hmm:
BTW nice looking knife!
snake-eyes :hatsoff:
 
generaly if it's wood you want to stabilize it, I use WSSI for that.
Hey Ed: can you elaborate a little? How do you stabilize wood? and what does "WSSI" stand for?
 
I think I have heard of Renaissance wax, where do you get it? Is a furniture finish or wood finish? And the Bees Wax may work fine too I never thought of that.
Thanks
Jeff :hmm:
 
Ed Street said:
generaly if it's wood you want to stabilize it, I use WSSI for that. stabilizing makes it more resistance to warping, cracking, etc... the home kitchen stabilizing is not even close to the same thing and will never yield the same type results.

Ed

I stabilize my wood, axe handles, gun stocks, whatever with shellac first, it won't weather but it seals, then go over that with whatever finish I want.
Jeff
 
I use Minwax Wood Hardener with some acetone mixed in. Fill up a mason jar about 3/4 full. Poke a hole in the top. Put in your wood, horn or antler and close the lid. Take a hand pump brake bleeder pump, attach the flat surface fitting over the hole and pump that thang till your arms are dead or the bubbles stop. When wood sinks, it's pretty well soaked it up. Then let the material set in there for a day or two for good measure. Remove, wipe off excess and let it set up to dry for a few days.

It also helps to get whatever material you are using down to just about the size you intend to use in the final fitting. That helps the hardener to reach that much farther into the pores. Dig out whatever pithy core from the antler that needs to be removed too.
 
What I was thinking of was straight 100%
beeswax melted in a double pan setup ( double
broiler) Dip, dry, buff etec., etc, until you
get the seal your looking for. I can see where
this mite be impracticle for a gun stock, seems
like it would work very well on about any knife
handle. Like I said in the beginning I am no
expert.
snake-eyes :hmm:
 
WSSI is a company that has all the industrial equipment to stabilize many things and mike is probably the most knowlegable person in the industry about stabilizing and wood/bone/horn/etc properties

WSSI

Generaly what happens is it's placed in a liquid acrylic resin type bath and put in a vacuum for so long then autoclaved. What you get as a final product needs no stain, no dye, nothing but cut, shape sand and polish. it WILL mirror polish super easy.

However you really do need all your industrial bondage gear when working with it as it is a plastic material of sorts and will indeed play hell with your lungs over time so be safe!

You can dunk stabilized wood in water and it will not swell up like noraml wood, it will absorb some water but that will drain out fairly quickly. it makes wood less prone to warping, cracking, checking, color change over time, etc..

the below are made with stabilized wood, all clear dye and from WSSI. The first one is bone :)

giraffe bone:
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spalted pecan:
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ash burl:
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spalted birch:
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pen. black cherry burl:
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sugar maple from canada:
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WAXES:

reninsance wax can be bought many places but do not get hung up on the 'reninsance' part. This is a clip from the conservator at the springfield armory museum/

use PASTE waxes ONLY. I prefer carnauba-ased furniture waxes such as kiwi, bois, mohawk or behlen or black bison on wood stocks. I also recommend using pigmented paste waxes.

Avoid wax mixtures which include a high percentage of bee's wax. they are not especially harmful, but are relatively soft and can be slightly acidic.

Use a microcrystalline wax, such as renaissance wax as a protective coating. such waxes re practicaly inert, remaining stable for a very long time. apply and buff out with a soft clothor brush. ferrous metals (iron, steel) should be preheated for 30 minutes or so at 210F so that the wax will form a complete seal.

in the GCA journal vol 20, issue #3 summer 2006 he has several photo's of flintlocks that were in display when katrina hit. they were submerged in saltwater for many weeks and the photo's are astounding. there's one oiled, one cold wax and one hot waxed. the oiled looks like someone put a coat of rust on it with spots of heavy rust. the cold wax has some rust blotches in places but nothing even. the hot wax looks like it was never in salt water. BTW the hot waxed lock is a brown bess lock. these came from the chalmette visitor center's exhibit. the 2 waxed were treated in 1985.

Ed
 
forgot one thing. The #1 downside to stabilized wood is this. You send in 10 pounds of wood and you will get back 20 pounds. The process increases the weight as it soaks up the resins. Soft wood will increase more than hardwoods. Oily woods will process poorly.

Ed
 
Thanks for the Info!Beautiful Knives :bow: !Thanks for posting the Pics :applause: !The WSSI process would be excellent for Handgun grip panels! :thumbsup:
 
WSII is a good company to use & I have used them for years to stabilizer wood for my knife handles. I have never been disappointed with what they have done for me, always a jam-up job..... :thumbsup:
 
I use neatsfoot oil on antler. The ancient principle is 'animal oils on animal products, vegetable oils on vegetable products'. I learned that ancient principle last century from my grandfather. That takes it back 100+ years.
There are exceptions to this principle, of course.
My father swore by neatsfoot on his hammers, said it didn't raise blisters.
 
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