I ordered a flat horn from Crazy Crow's and thought I would post a picture of it. It's flatter than the picture looks..bout 1" out to 5/8" x 3-1/4" oval at the end. Comes with horn and plug and rough. Will need to seal and finish rough edges. Made the two ball bags. Thought I would take some of the shine off the horn and try some scrimshaw on the lighter part.