Looking at getting a Pedersoli Charles Moore flintlock .45 cal rifled pistol for target shooting. About $650 new. Any input? Is shooting flintlock pistol for target practice fun? Thanks.
Flintlock Target Pistol
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I suppose you could call it fun. It is if your good at it. 
One thing's for certain.
Precision target shooting with a flintlock pistol will rapidly separate the men from the boys. :rotf:
One thing's for certain.
Precision target shooting with a flintlock pistol will rapidly separate the men from the boys. :rotf:
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I have had a Charles Moore in my hand and it was nice, however I think The Gun Works dueling pistol is a better choice. Mine is a .45 and I wish it was a .36.
Michael
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Even a bad day with a flint pistol is better than working. Yes, I have had some really bad days with ALL my pistols, but GREAT days with friends shooting in several states.
Michael
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Hello, can you please explain what you mean? Gun Works dueling pistol? Thank you.
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I have a Yazel flint pistol in .36 I had to completely rework to get to spark at all but it is a fine pistol now and I would not trade it off for any other.
I have a match to it in percussion both with nine inch barrels and both are more accurate than I can hold them.
I actually love to shoot flint pistols but my are they hard to master. The real trick in accurate flint pistol shooting is to get them to be consistent in ignition speed which is also true of a rifle but probably ten fold so with a hand gun.
I have a match to it in percussion both with nine inch barrels and both are more accurate than I can hold them.
I actually love to shoot flint pistols but my are they hard to master. The real trick in accurate flint pistol shooting is to get them to be consistent in ignition speed which is also true of a rifle but probably ten fold so with a hand gun.
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The Guns Works is a large distributor of muzzle loading guns and supplies. The pistols I have are call English pistol on their site. BTW they are located in Springfield, Ore. Sorry I didn't explain it better before. I had a new knee put in last week and the pains Meds really do a number on me. Send a private email and I will respond with my phone number if you want talk.
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My flint Pedersoli LePage is a lot of fun to shoot. If fun is equated to putting holes in paper where you meant to put the holes.
The Charles Moore and LePage are fine pistols. They can be shot in the flintlock matches and the Traditional match if you want to shoot match’s
The English pistol from the Gun Works is a nice pistol and nice part is you can order the wood and caliber you want. I ordered the .36 which now is the caliber of choice. Expect a year wait to have it made and I do not think it will hold it's own it's own against the modern flintlock pistols.
Yazel is the flint pistol of choice, but finding one is very hard. The only way to get one is to wait on someone to die.
The Lewis is a fine pistol and comes with 3 barrel weight and the trigger is angled to fit your finger better.
I have shot my best scores with a Ten Ring, they have fallen out of choice.
You can make your own wood flints to dry fire.
The English pistol from the Gun Works is a nice pistol and nice part is you can order the wood and caliber you want. I ordered the .36 which now is the caliber of choice. Expect a year wait to have it made and I do not think it will hold it's own it's own against the modern flintlock pistols.
Yazel is the flint pistol of choice, but finding one is very hard. The only way to get one is to wait on someone to die.
The Lewis is a fine pistol and comes with 3 barrel weight and the trigger is angled to fit your finger better.
I have shot my best scores with a Ten Ring, they have fallen out of choice.
You can make your own wood flints to dry fire.
Thanks so much all. I like the Le Page but it is kind of pricey and I'm more drawn to the style of the Charles Moore. Does Pedersoli make a good lock? Will I have to harden the frizzen or anything like that?
I own a Pedersoli Harper's Ferry percussion pistol .54 smootbore and oh man is it ever fun to shoot. But I'd love to try a rock lock that is rifles as well. I would probably like to compete someday if I'm ever closer to the right location where the competitions are held, but as for now it will be recreational target shooting for small groups.
Any resources for beginners with flintlock pistols would be GREATLY appreciated. I understand that they are more complex and finicky over the percussion guns I'm used to, but I think I'm ready to go to Flintlock World. :thumbsup:
I own a Pedersoli Harper's Ferry percussion pistol .54 smootbore and oh man is it ever fun to shoot. But I'd love to try a rock lock that is rifles as well. I would probably like to compete someday if I'm ever closer to the right location where the competitions are held, but as for now it will be recreational target shooting for small groups.
Any resources for beginners with flintlock pistols would be GREATLY appreciated. I understand that they are more complex and finicky over the percussion guns I'm used to, but I think I'm ready to go to Flintlock World. :thumbsup:
Pedersoli makes good locks, and not so good locks.
I have their Pennsylvania rifle in .45 Flint, and it is a good lock. Reliable and pretty quick. I suspect that when it fails to fire, it's my fault for not knapping the flint or keeping the touch hole clear.
I have the Pedersoli 1805 Harper's Ferry in Flint. I do not like that lock. The geometry is poor. Most of the sparks do not go into the pan. I get frustrated with it pretty quickly because I know it should be better.
I shot my friend's Pedersoli Kentucky pistol last week, and it had a good lock. Good geometry, and it was reliable and quick.
I know that's only three data points, none of which refer to the pistol you want...
Might look at the pictures on the website and see if at least the geometry looks good.
And by the way, once you go to flintlocks, you probably won't ever go back!
Cheers,
Chowmi
I have their Pennsylvania rifle in .45 Flint, and it is a good lock. Reliable and pretty quick. I suspect that when it fails to fire, it's my fault for not knapping the flint or keeping the touch hole clear.
I have the Pedersoli 1805 Harper's Ferry in Flint. I do not like that lock. The geometry is poor. Most of the sparks do not go into the pan. I get frustrated with it pretty quickly because I know it should be better.
I shot my friend's Pedersoli Kentucky pistol last week, and it had a good lock. Good geometry, and it was reliable and quick.
I know that's only three data points, none of which refer to the pistol you want...
Might look at the pictures on the website and see if at least the geometry looks good.
And by the way, once you go to flintlocks, you probably won't ever go back!
Cheers,
Chowmi
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I also have one of those Harpers Ferry and it has poor ignition too, it just hangs on the wall looking nice.
Chowmif16 said:
Thank you so much. I am not sure how to tell if the geometry looks good, I am very new to flintlocks to say the least. Here is a picture of the gun I want:
Can anyone tell me if this lock geometry looks good?
I have the Kentucky and the Charles Moore and have had no problems at all.
For line shooters they have a following.
Find the Following: "Flintlocks, A Practical Guide for their Use and Appreciation", by Eric A. Bye, it should be required reading.
Can order from the NMLRA.
For line shooters they have a following.
Find the Following: "Flintlocks, A Practical Guide for their Use and Appreciation", by Eric A. Bye, it should be required reading.
Can order from the NMLRA.
If you can find Swiss NullB powder, get a can for priming, is similar to 7F.
I know folks are going to say 3F is fine or 4F which is fine. All the Master and High Master flintlock shooters use NullB for a reason.
You will need to make a loading stand to clean and load the pistol, some ranges have that requirement. Once the pistol ball is seated into the ball, take the pistol out of the stand to finish seating the ball, eliminates breaking the stock.
For awhile the Charles Moore's were equipped with a rear sight which was too tall. Richard at Flintlocks Etc. had a lower rear sight for each of my pistols.
I use 10 grains of powder at 25 and 50 yards.
With the design of the stock most likely you will need a high hand hold to keep from shooting high.
Have fun.
I know folks are going to say 3F is fine or 4F which is fine. All the Master and High Master flintlock shooters use NullB for a reason.
You will need to make a loading stand to clean and load the pistol, some ranges have that requirement. Once the pistol ball is seated into the ball, take the pistol out of the stand to finish seating the ball, eliminates breaking the stock.
For awhile the Charles Moore's were equipped with a rear sight which was too tall. Richard at Flintlocks Etc. had a lower rear sight for each of my pistols.
I use 10 grains of powder at 25 and 50 yards.
With the design of the stock most likely you will need a high hand hold to keep from shooting high.
Have fun.
That new Pedersoli Tatum & Egg is REALLY pretty, but looks out of my budget.
If you guys have the blessings for the Charles Moore, then I'll be getting one from DGW next month when I sell off some more of my centerfire guns that I don't enjoy shooting as much as my black powder guns!
Richard Eames: I am going to buy that book you recommended, thanks so much. A book that will help me learn how to make my flintlock work properly would be great for me. :grin:
If you guys have the blessings for the Charles Moore, then I'll be getting one from DGW next month when I sell off some more of my centerfire guns that I don't enjoy shooting as much as my black powder guns!
Richard Eames: I am going to buy that book you recommended, thanks so much. A book that will help me learn how to make my flintlock work properly would be great for me. :grin:
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I could use the book myself. Always more to learn and another way to skin the cat.
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I have one other friend, a fine pistol shot by the way, that owns two Yazel's as well and doubt he will ever part with them either.
Unless some one picks up the rights to make them from Harold and Mike I doubt any more will be made which will make the prices sore.
Actually both of mine were under $500.00 brand new, which I was quite shocked about the reasonable pricing, and Harold told me his goal was to make one of the finest muzzle loading match pistols available, affordable for the average Joe.
He didn't want only the "well heeled" to be able to afford his guns.
Unless some one picks up the rights to make them from Harold and Mike I doubt any more will be made which will make the prices sore.
Actually both of mine were under $500.00 brand new, which I was quite shocked about the reasonable pricing, and Harold told me his goal was to make one of the finest muzzle loading match pistols available, affordable for the average Joe.
He didn't want only the "well heeled" to be able to afford his guns.
