Forensic Identification for Flintlock Remains

[CoffeeMonger]

I had thought with the shape of narrow of the tang that it could have been turned. Especially with it being .75 bore.

The lug lines up with the pin flanges on the bottom where it connects into the stock.

 

[sussexmuzllodr]

I was considering a vinegar bath… not committed yet.

You have a unique item there. As to suitability for future shooting it could be. It,s getting down to learning all you can about what you have there and now. you may wind up with something that can never be shot. But you will have your very own piece of muzzle loading history...

 

[Flintlock1640]

The lug lines up with the pin flanges on the bottom where it connects into the stock.

True, now that I think about it the Dutch Type II has a bayonet lug on the bottom and has a sight on top like that. I bet it's Dutch. Don't know why I didn't think about it before. It's been messed with so that the tang is beaten up and the rings at the breech are barely visible but it fits. Dutch lugs are roughly every 10 inches if I remember correctly.

 

[Flintlock1640]

as far as a vinegar bath doesn't vinegar take off patina? I think the barrel looks great the way it is. Rough but showing it's 250+ year history.

 

[Clark Badgett]

Tue, Now that I think about it the Dutch Type II has a bayonet lug on the bottom and has a sight on top like that. I bet it's Dutch. Don't know why I didn't think about it before. It's been messed with so that the tang is beaten up and the rings at the breech are barely visible but it fits. Dutch lugs are roughly every 10 inches if I remember correctly.

I didn’t think of Dutch either.

 

[florkinliege]

as others have mentioned either a relic cheapo Brit export gun with mountings somewhat in the style of a Bess or an American composite with parts from a Bess in that direction, most likely early 19th century.

 

[Relic shooter]

as far as a vinegar bath doesn't vinegar take off patina? I think the barrel looks great the way it is. Rough but showing it's 250+ year history.

Your correct, don't remove the great patina with vinegar !!
Relic shooter

 

[CoffeeMonger]

You have a unique item there. As to suitability for future shooting it could be. It,s getting down to learning all you can about what you have there and now. you may wind up with something that can never be shot. But you will have your very own piece of muzzle loading history...

Thanks. It’s an intriguing gun full of mystery. I don’t think actually shooting it would be as much fun as all the research. I’ve decided to look for a used American stock if I can find one to buy. Not in a hurry tho.

 

[CoffeeMonger]

as far as a vinegar bath doesn't vinegar take off patina? I think the barrel looks great the way it is. Rough but showing it's 250+ year history.

I agree. The vinegar would be for the inside of the barrel. I had hoped to possibly plug the touch hole and fill it up, leaving the outside untouched. In theory this would gently remove the rust from inside. In theory…

 

[Flintlock1640]

I agree. The vinegar would be for the inside of the barrel. I had hoped to possibly plug the touch hole and fill it up, leaving the outside untouched. In theory this would gently remove the rust from inside. In theory…

or depending on the amount of rust you may have nothing left lol

 

[GREENSWLDE]

Rather unusual sqaure nut holding the ****.. I didn't realise there were Zip ties that long ago. Saved a lot of trouble making Keys and cutting Keyslots. O.D.

 

[CoffeeMonger]

Rather unusual sqaure nut holding the ****.. I didn't realise there were Zip ties that long ago. Saved a lot of trouble making Keys and cutting Keyslots. O.D.

All of it are original equipment. Lol. We suspect the nut (not me) was a possible field repair with the local blacksmith.

 

[hawkeye2]

I would call it a square headed screw and not a nut. Possibly a field or blacksmith repair?

 

[CoffeeMonger]

I would call it a square headed screw and not a nut. Possibly a field or blacksmith repair?

You are correct sir