French or Belgian flintlock musket/musketoon info request *PICS*

[Rick Davis]

Can anyone identify this weapon? Click on each picture to enlarge.


It's flintlock and shows strong French influence. Brass pan, about 69 caliber, smoothbore no apparent provision for a bayonet or sling. Trigger bow is brass, but trigger guard base is steel or iron. There is a v-notch rear sight on the breechplug tang. History & provenance unknown.


It has what appears to be a Belgian proofmark on the barrel. If so, would this pre-date Belgium and be considered French?


How would I estimate it's value?

Thanks for your time and interest!

Rick

 

[flintlockmdj]

Don't know nothin about it but I will give you 50 cent for it if you ship. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

What you have is a "Karabijn voor de Rijkswacht, model An IX". It is Belgian and copied from a similar French arm. Try this link:
[url] http://www.geocities.com/belgianarmypre1914/index.html[/url]

When you get there, click on "INHOUD VUURWAPENS" and click on "Karabijn voor de Rijkswacht, Model An IX, gewijzigd en getrokken" under "Geweren & Karabijnen". :shocked2: (Confusing I know but there doesn't seem to be a way of posting a direct link to that page, sorry.) Anyway, the one shown is converted to percussion but it is the same. Belgian makers built firearms for France, Holland, England and many other countries as well as the Belgian Army. You have a VERY interesting military carbine in original flint - don't take the 50 cent offer! (I'll give you a dollar? :rotf: ) Of course you know whitebear and I are kidding, right? (Pssst, whitebear, if he doesn't ... :shocked2:

 

[Rick Davis]

I also found this:[url] http://www.militaryheritage.com/musket11.htm[/url]

But the trigger guard is different & it lacks the saddle rings & bar. The trigger on the mystery gun looks like it's from a later gun (1822??), I wonder if it's a parts gun or restocked?

Judging by the recent strike marks on the frizzen, I assume the springs are still good.

Thanks again,

Rick