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gmkendall

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Have a new Navyarms Smith Carbine,and find opening the action is a bit hard.Will it loosen with time or what would be good solution.Also where is a a good place to buy smith
bullets,and what weight for target shooting 50-100 yards

Kendall
 
You didn't state if its a .50 or a .54 caliber, but both require a flat-based bullet...

Smith Carbine bullets - M&M #70 (McKee & Mason)- dug near Kolb's Farm Battlefield, Georgia.
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http://www.hackman-adams.com/guns/smithcarbine.htm

Dixie Gun Works sells a bullet mold for the Smith carbine, see link below:
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_101&products_id=8027&osCsid=ea3964ffd065cb4a4722be975096cc4d

As far as the rough action, fine emery cloth will polish up any burrs left from production, follow up with some oil and you are ready to shoot, it should loosen up with time...

By the way, both Lee's R.E.A.L bullet and T/C Maxi balls are flat-based bullet...
 
1st. step is to slug the bore. Use a pure lead slug or round ball, larger than the groove dia., pound it into the muzzle, then poke it out and measure side to side, the largest dia. which will be on top of the lands of the slug which is actually the groove dia. of the barrel. Then measure the smallest dia. which will be the bore dia, from the bottom of the grooves of the lead slug side to side. If the barrel has an odd number of grooves, get as close to opposite sides of the lands and grouves of the slug in your measurements. There are formulae for figuring out the correct bore/groove dia. but I don't have those.
: I have measured the largest dia. I could, then added .002" for the mould size and that has worked. You want the cast bullet to be .001 to .003 larger than the groove dia. of the barrel. With a breech loader, harder than Pure lead can be used. Lyman BP or OxYoke(harder bore butter) bullet lube in the sticks is good for these type of bullets & is easily lubed by hand or melted over low heat, set the bullets in the melted lube then remove from the heat. When the lube hardens, remove the bullets. You can make a 'cake-cutter' for removing the bullets from brass tubing bought at a model store. The tubes come in sizes that fit inside each other, up to 1" in dia., so there is a size that's perfect or close to it. The walls of the tube are .015" per side. Bevel the end of the tube, press over the bullet, then pull the tube up. The bullet will ramain inside the tube & after you have pushed it over several, with a dowel or short starter, poke them out, or just keep pressing over the bulelt until they come out the top. Doing this when the lube is solid but still quite warm, makes it an easy chore.
: It is important to use PURE lead only for the slug as one made from WW or other alloyed metal will be hard to pound in and pound out again. It is important to use a lube designed for keeping BP soft. I have used Lyman BP lube, Ox-Yoke lube, and my a 19th century concotion of 40% vaseline or neetsfoot oil(not ocmpound)./60% beeswax which works just as well as any compercial I've used and is better than most. If the lube is working properly, you shold be able to push ALL of the fouling out from 5 shots, with 1 DRY patch. If that doesn't happen, the lube isn't suitable, or there isn't enough of it.
: With the Smith "ctg" measure the inside dia. That should show you the largest bullet you can use, and actually should be the correct size, - however it might not be. I don't know the rate of twist in that carbine, but it is probably a bit too slow & therefore you should use the shortest bullet possible. A shorter bullet will allow maximum capacity for powder.
Daryl
 
Daryl,has that right.Most Smiths I have seen need a .512-.520 bullet.There IS that much varation in the Navy arms barrels. Some guys shoot a 50-70 slug but I think thats is a bit heavy.I use the Rapine Smith mould.I size mine at .514 with a lubersizer.I use the black nylon cases.24.5 gr of fff with .4 cc of filler works best in mine at target busting. For best accuracy case must be full enough to just let the bullet just engauge with rifleing when action is shut. Easy check is to fill with filler and load.Keep adding more till bullet stays in chamber.That is your cartridge over all length.
Your hinge pin will losen with usage.To make it easer to open action if deburing the pin dosent help is to add a .020 shim between spring and barrel.I used a thin washer.

Hope this helps
Jim
 
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