Gunzilla

[Billnpatti]

I have been reading the many favorable comments concerning using Gunzilla to clean your muzzleloading guns. So, I just had to try some. I have it now and so far, it seems to be a pretty good product. Now, I am wondering if anybody has tried using it to swab between shots. I haven't gotten to the range since getting my bottle of Gunzilla in the mail so I haven't tried doing it. Just wondering if anyone else has given it a try and for those who have tried it for swabbing between shots, what is your opinin of it for that purpose?

 

[M. De Land]

Hey, there's one of those slap my forehead moments, "why didn't I think of that" Bill, never crossed my mind to use as a patch lube but I will give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion!
I use it in cleaning all my barrels now smokeless or black. I still use hot soapy water first in the BP guns.
I don't think it desolves burned on fouling quite as quick as hot soapy water but put near!
The fact that there is no water in it and one can leave it in the barrel for extended periods of time is a big plus in my book.
It seems to really protect against black powder fouling corrosion.
I have noticed it does cut down leading when shooting lead bullets with no patching, even in cold weather. Mike

 

[ncmtmike]

Where to find this stuff? :bow:

 

[necchi]

With respect,
It sounds like another commercial product solution for a problem that doesn't exist,
:idunno:

 

[M. De Land]

I got it at my local gun shop about a half mile down the road.
Got a half pint from my son-in-law for Christmas and didn't get around to trying it for about six months. Like it so well I used up the first bottle and went back and bought a full pint refill.
Works in all guns for bore cleaning and protection although I think it cleans better than it protects.
So far though not a hint of rust in any gun I have used it on for protection after cleaning.
I leave a film right in the bore.
No water or petroleum in it.
None flammable.
None corrosive.
Will clean up with soap and water and is made from natural plant chemicals. Mike D.
P.S. I was told the military thinks it's the best CLP (cleaner, lubricator , protector) that ever came down the road.

 

[Ken Cormier]

Plays 1on what necchi said.???????

 

[Zonie]

Hey, there's one of those slap my forehead moments, "why didn't I think of that" Bill, never crossed my mind to use as a patch lube but I will give it a try. Thanks for the suggestion!
...
Mike

I think Billnpatti was talking about using it for swabbing between shots. Not for using it as a patch lube.

 

[dikman]

Personally, I'm always wary of a product where they won't tell you what's in it (I like to know what's in something before I'll buy it). In this case, because it's made from "natural" products I figure it must be something that's readily available (and cheap) which is why they won't say 'cos then the buyer won't know how much they've been ripped off. :haha: .

 

[nkbj]

I'm still wondering about something that neutralizes black powder combustion byproducts that I can mix up from a trip to the grocery store, the hardware store and the pharmacy. It's out there waiting for some bright soul to figger it out.

 

[Billnpatti]

Yeah, you're right. But....Hmmmmm... :hmm: ...it's an idea. I just might have to give it a try myself. Who knows, I just might stumble onto something.

C'mon M.D., let's try this thing. :thumbsup:

 

[Billnpatti]

Maybe yes, maybe no. Who knows at this point. The thing is, I am not afraid to try something. I already use very warm soapy water to clean up my black powder guns and it does a good job. It has worked for me for a long time and I don't plan to change now. However, if this product will remove any additional material from my bore, I'm all for it. It would be just one more easy step in my cleaning technique. What the heck, I love to mess with my guns anyway. Sometimes, I just get one or two out, run a patch through them and wipe them down just to be messing with them. I like to keep my guns pristine clean and I store them in a climate controlled gun safe. I'm a fanatic in this respect. So, is Gunzilla anything special? Will it do anything to help me keeping them looking and functioning like new? Well, like you, I don't know yet....... but I'm willing to find out. And maybe, just maybe, if you're nice, I'll tell you what I find out. :grin: Aw, heck, Necchi, even if you're not nice, you know I'll tell you anyway. :haha:

 

[hawkeye2]

If one goes to their home page (http://www.gunzilla.us/products.html) there is a button on the right for the msds however it doesn't list the ingredients.

 

[bpd303]

I'm still wondering about something that neutralizes black powder combustion byproducts that I can mix up from a trip to the grocery store, the hardware store and the pharmacy. It's out there waiting for some bright soul to figger it out.

Well here ya go...been using it for years and it works.
Black Powder Solvent/Cleaner

1 part Murphy’s Oil Soap
2 parts rubbing alcohol
2 parts peroxide

 

[Billnpatti]

Way back when I first became a practicing Certified Industrial Hygienist (CIH), most of the MSDSs listed all of their contents. If it was a proprietary mixture, they would state that it was a "Proprietary mixture of X,Y, and Z" using the general terms for each of the ingredients. Now, the MSDSs do not have to list any of the non-hazardous products. Since the manufacturers of Gunzilla claim that none of the ingredients are listed as being a hazardous materials, they are not required to list any of them on their MSDS. However, in spite of the fact that none of the ingredients are supposed to be hazardous, there are many instructions on how to treat the various modes of exposure, etc. This is just "boiler plate" that is driven by lawyers and is found on all MSDSs that do not have other specific instructions for their product. If you produce a product that is composed of non-hazardous materials and is, itself, non-hazardous, your MSDS will simply be a bunch of boiler plate statements to satisfy the lawyers. It's all background noise. And that is what you see when you look at the Gunzilla MSDS.

 

[nkbj]

I'm still wondering about something that neutralizes black powder combustion byproducts that I can mix up from a trip to the grocery store, the hardware store and the pharmacy. It's out there waiting for some bright soul to figger it out.

Well here ya go...been using it for years and it works.
Black Powder Solvent/Cleaner

1 part Murphy’s Oil Soap
2 parts rubbing alcohol
2 parts peroxide

You're right, that mixture cleans good.

 

[M. De Land]

Yeah, he sure did but my mind immediately jumped a cog and ceased on the patch lube angle which Bill's comment inspired.
I currently use windshield wash on my patches as patch lube and it works just like a between shot swab. Mike

 

[M. De Land]

The thinking is that the windshield wash is comprised of water, liquid soap and alcohol. The newly patched ball with this fluid clears the heavy fouling off ahead of it on the way down the barrel to the new powder charge effectively making a wad of fouling on top the fresh powder shielding it from the dampness of the fresh patch.
I can easily shoot a ten shot relay without a separate wiping operation and the spent patches on the ground all look the same beginning to end.
I'm curious now to see if Gunzilla does as well or better as a patch lube.
Might be exceptional in cold dry weather as it has no water or petroleum in it. Mike D.

 

[Billnpatti]

Have you tried Ballistol as a patch lube. It's great stuff. I put a light coat on my patches, when I use it, and I can shoot up to at least 25 shots without having to swab my bore.

 

[M. De Land]

Bill, I was under the impression it was petroleum based and for that reason never have thought much about it for a patch lube.
Actually once I tried the windshild wash I pretty much quit looking for a better patch lube.
I like it for cold weather shooting as well as warm weather. Mike

 

[Zonie]

How come every time I see the name Gunzilla I keep thinking of a Japanese guy dressed up in a very poorly made dragon suit stomping on cardboard buildings while hundreds of Japanese men, women and children all run around screaming at the top of their lungs?

"OH! ROOK! IT'S GUNZIRRA! (SCREAM! SHREEK! SCREAM!)

HE ROOKS VELLY ANGLY!

WHERE IS MOTHRA THE CATAPIRRER WHEN WE NEED HIM?"

STOMP....STOMP.....STOMP!! :rotf: :rotf: :grin:

(My apologies to our Japanese members but you have to admit those Godzilla movies were rather humorous and the translations to English left a bit to be desired. )