Hard Bore Butter

[Blackfoot]

What can I use for bore butter replacement ? I was using bore butter and it froze up so it was hard to use.

Can you use Mink Oil for boots? If not what else is there that is soft when it gets cold?

 

[Swampman]

Olive oil works fine.

 

Or bear oil if you can get it. A friend of mine uses goat grease with beeswax mix. Sometimes when I use bore butter I have to moisten it with saliva and that softens it up some. It's a taste you have to develop though. :grin: But it doesn't have anything in it that will hurt you if you eat it. That's what they say on the container anyway.
Don

 

[Twisted_1in66]

What can I use for bore butter replacement ? I was using bore butter and it froze up so it was hard to use.
**SNIP**

I had the same problem when I lived in Vermont. Went out to shoot my rifle and the bore butter was like cement. Do a search on the forum for "Moose Snot" by Stumpkiller. It's a simple concoction you have to mix up yourself, and it works fine in freezing temperatures.

I took an Altoids tin (after eating the mints of course) and used a propane torch to burn all paint off of it. Then used some sandpaper to clean it up and now it looks like on old tin. Made the moose snot and poured it in there. It congeals to about the consistency of shoe polish, doesn't leak and doesn't turn into a rock in the cold. I keep the tin in my shooting bag and just wipe the patching material in it before I load. Works great.

By the way, frozen bore butter makes a good hammer. :rotf:

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[roundball]

What can I use for bore butter replacement ? I was using bore butter and it froze up so it was hard to use.

Can you use Mink Oil for boots? If not what else is there that is soft when it gets cold?

Hoppes No9 BP PLUS Solvent/Patch Lube is excellent for cold, dry humidity conditions

 

[boar]

Blackfoot I use rendered deer fat. I used groundhog&beeswax-50-50 mixture for 20yrs before that. Bear is real good.You could use crisco. The moose snot(Stumpys). Dilly

 

[Twisted_1in66]

Blackfoot I use rendered deer fat. I used groundhog&beeswax-50-50 mixture for 20yrs before that. Bear is real good.You could use crisco. The moose snot(Stumpys). Dilly

Crisco can go rancid...been there, done that, don't recommend it. That's why I was using bore butter before I switched to Stumpy's Moose Snot. Bear grease is great stuff if you can get it.

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[JackAubrey]

Olive oil for PRB

 

[CrackStock]

Are we discussing patch lube, bore protectant or other uses?

I shoot with alcohol and Murphy's oil soap mixed for the current conditions. For my bore, I use Rig, 20W40, breakFree or Ballistol -- whatever is available at the moment. It all works if the bore is clean or dry. None works otherwise.
(Actually, I think that Rig will work either way but do not care to test it!)

CS

 

[Stumpkiller]

Both of these will survive the New York winters. The Snot gets a little stiffer but still smears.

Stumpy's Moose Milk

A general purpose blackpowder solvent and liquid patch lube. Shake well before using

Castor Oil 3 oz.
Murphy's Oil Soap 1 oz.
Witch Hazel 4 oz.
Isopropyl Alcohol (91%) 8 oz.
Water (non-chlorinated) 16 oz.

I dip my patching in this twice and let it dry between. Makes a semi-dry patch material that's easy to carry & use. If you don't mind carrying a little bottle it's a GREAT liquid lube as is.


Stumpy's Moose Snot

A premium multi-shot between wiping (10+) patch lube stable over a wide temperature range.
SPECIFICALLY designed for use of patched round balls in a loading block

Beeswax 2 oz.
Castor Oil 8 oz.
Murphy's Oil Soap 1 oz.


Heat beeswax in a soup can set a pot of water. ( A double-boiler. I keep my beeswax in a one pound coffee can and measure out what I need by melting it and pouring it into measuring cups). Add just enough water so the inner can does not begin to float (should be just short of the lube level in the can). Heat the water to a low boil. In a separate can, add the castor oil and Murphy's oil soap (cold). Once the beeswax is melted, swap the castor oil can in the pot of water for the beeswax. Add the beeswax to the oils. It will clump up. Stir with an ice tea spoon as the mixture heats up. When it fully melts there will be a scum that floats to the top and just won't mix in. Be patient. DO NOT COOK THE MIXTURE. Once the solids are dissolved there is no need to heat further. Skim the scum off. Remove the mix from the heat and wipe the water off the outside (so it won't drip into the container when you pour it out). FINAL TOP SECRET STEP: Add a teaspoon of Murphy's Oil Soap and stir vigorously. This last step makes the lube frothy and smooth - really adds to the appearance; though it doesn't seem to matter to the function of the lube. Clamp the can in the jaws of a vice-grip pliers and pour into the waiting tins. Allow to cool a half hour.

Note: it if is a hinged tin - line the edge that has the hinges with a strip of aluminum foil so it doesn't ooze out before it cools.

 

[Brian Rice]

Stumpy,

I made both of your products last night, and am getting ready to use the moose milk to clean with in a few minutes. I took my flinter out to shoot this afternoon, and work on the load and resight in, and I used a damp patch of moosemilk and then a dry patch between each shot. I wanted to simulate the hunting situation(clean barrel first shot) It worked great, as it did last night when I blew the ball out with compressed air and cleaned the whole gun with it!!!!!!!

I did a freezer test on the snot, and it was still pliable this morning after being in the freezer all night. I also made the Cat Whiz I saw mentioned on the sight with the left over ingredients I had left last night. I labled it Moose Pee though. I hope I don't get arrested for my artistic license!!!!!! Mighty fine stuff!!!! The orginal Moose products that is. I haven't used the Moose Pee yet!

Thanks for sharing. BTW, I made up a bunch and gave some of each product to a man that I just hooked on Flintlocks. He was really excited and can't wait to get a chance to go shooting in a couple of weeks.

Thanks,

Brian

 

[oomcurt]

I just can't resist this...I mean it in a way is hilarious. Lessee...imagine this is taking place in a face to face conversation...some poor soul that doesn't know just what it is you;re talking about...all he hears is moose pee, moose snot, and moose milk...He probably will get a picture in his mind of one of those competitions where folks try to milk a wild cow...but doing it to a female moose?? Then we have him imagining some guy with more guts than brains putting the squeeze on a moose's abdomen....wow...and finally...some guy holding his handkerchief up to a moose's nose and saying "blow"..... :rotf: :rotf:

 

[Stumpkiller]

I did a post last year about how Moose Snot is collected. It involves finding a sleeping bull moose in the winter, and you have to have a bucket with you to put in front of his nose as he sleeps. Then, you take an 18" icicle and sneak around behind him. Slowly lift his tail and . . .

Oh, and you've got to remember to grab that bucket quick and run fast without looking back. Not good to try collecting the Snot with snowshoes on.


If you clean with the moose milk be sure to use a moisture displacing oil like Birchwood Casey Sheath or Rem-Oil, as it is water based.

 

[riarcher]

Just add a bit of Extra Vergin Olive oil to your BB, Test it in the freezer for the consistancy your looking for.
Living in R.I. it gets cool here also. I've changed over to wax from a local bee keeper (free) and the olive oil mixed to the consistancy of BB in the temperature at the currant season. Simply put, more oil / thinner mix. No problems yet. Just as good and cheaper than BB. Want to add some odor for the range? a shot of Sambuca or a dissolved Jolly Rancher (apple) makes folks ask questions. Rendered chicken fat drives folks nuts (smells like fried chicken when shot) :v

 

[vermontfreedom]

DO NOT use mink oil for boots!!!!!!!! That is not named properly.

You can buy real mink oil (check out[url] http://www.trackofthewolf.com[/url]). They sell an 8-ounce tin. It is the real stuff and good for cold weather shooting. But it is best for very cold weather. Even 40-degree weather is probably too warm as the slightest amount of ambient heat will tend it towards more liquid consistency.

You can always keep a pill bottle or small baggie of bore butter or lubed patches in a close pocket to keep them warm enough to stay greasy.