Today's Tandy type copper rivets in copper with a copper washer for the back- how close are they to pre-1840 harness rivets? On the back, was a concave tipped punch used to form a smooth dome or do most originals look like the post was peen hammered?
Harness Rivets
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They are correct. You use a hollow tool (bought from Tandy)to set the washer with and then cut off the stem close with a pair of side cutters, The stem is then peaned down with a hammer. It can be done with one blow or you can get creative and use 3 or 4 blows to give an effect like a rose headed nail. The washer went to the outside on Civil War bayonet scabbards and should go to the outside anywhere the rivet may rub against something like clothing or other leather gear.
glad i caught this thread, i headed over here to ask a simular question, when did this type of rivet come on the seen in america? and i was also wondering about chicago screws, how long have they been used??
also for what little its worth, we have always used a 1/4" pipe nipple to set the washers.
creek
also for what little its worth, we have always used a 1/4" pipe nipple to set the washers.
creek
They are correct to a point - that point being there were various sizes used in the past:
The size 9 is/was used primarily for harness and other heavy leather work. For gunleather, sheaths, etc size 14 is the proper size.
The same type rivets in brass are also period correct and the only vendor I know selling them is Weaver Leather.
Chicago Screws are 20the Century and later...
The size 9 is/was used primarily for harness and other heavy leather work. For gunleather, sheaths, etc size 14 is the proper size.
The same type rivets in brass are also period correct and the only vendor I know selling them is Weaver Leather.
Chicago Screws are 20the Century and later...
Chuck- saw your post on this subject on another site but finding #14 is difficult. What is the difference on the diameter of the head? I am thinking I can just reduce a #9 to a #14. That would also give me a stronger post that would be less liable to bend over.
Dave - even if you ground down the head the burr side would still be too large to imitate a #14.
#14's are available from several sources http://www.campbell-randall.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=43_47&product_id=1316
and here you can get both #14 and #12's which are only 1/32" larger in diameter than the #14's and don't bend quite so easily. but with a good setter and GOOD firm leather that's not a real problem. These are also the best price I've found online.... http://www.horseshoes.com/websites/thorobrd/en-us/dept_30.html
The following site has a chart of the sizes and dimensions... http://www.rivetsonline.com/14-copper-belt-rivets-and-burrs.html
#14's are available from several sources http://www.campbell-randall.com/shop/index.php?route=product/product&path=43_47&product_id=1316
and here you can get both #14 and #12's which are only 1/32" larger in diameter than the #14's and don't bend quite so easily. but with a good setter and GOOD firm leather that's not a real problem. These are also the best price I've found online.... http://www.horseshoes.com/websites/thorobrd/en-us/dept_30.html
The following site has a chart of the sizes and dimensions... http://www.rivetsonline.com/14-copper-belt-rivets-and-burrs.html
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