Have no ideas about this gun? HELP

[Bud326]

I received this gun when my Dad passed away. He was a collector. I can't find any name but did see a number on the barrel. Photos are better.
Black powder shotgun....haven't seen one like it yet on the internet????

 

[hawkeye2]

I'm only guessing here and could easily be wrong. The Northeast, specially MA & NH, seems to have been the center of firearms innovation and especially so when it requires machine work. I would date it 1850 or later. It very remotely resembles an Allen & Thurber and it would be interesting to see the interior of the lock. Whatever it is I like it.

 

[Bud326]

Thank you so much for the help. Here is your inside look. Hammer up and down. Also the other side of the barrel.

 

[hawkeye2]

The internals are not like an Allen & Thurber and look to be better designed. I imagine the coil trigger spring is a somewhat recent replacement. It looks like the mainspring is attached to the bottom tang and that is covered by the buttstock. After seeing the inside I like it even more.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

The internals are not like an Allen & Thurber and look to be better designed. I imagine the coil trigger spring is a somewhat recent replacement. It looks like the mainspring is attached to the bottom tang and that is covered by the buttstock. After seeing the inside I like it even more.

Agreed. It's very Allen & Thurber "esque"..., so I wonder if a smaller manufacturer upgraded the A&T rifle works, or simply came up with what looks to be an improvement to avoid any "patent" disputes with A&T ? The A&T action has the hammer fully exposed, external to the action.


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[Johnny Tremain]

all cast, way cool

 

[Dusty_Traveler]

Super cool piece!!

 

[Steel Hayes]

The similarities are very close to mine.
I would also say manufactured around the new englander area, 1850’s looks about right.