Hawes 1851 navy

[deadidick]

hey guys new here,I'm looking at a Hawes 1851 navy 36 cal. what is your opinion of the Hawes and is it an Italian maker thanks Rich

 

[Wes/Tex]

Hawes is a German dealer who sold Italian made percussion revolvers through the 70's to 90's. Like Navy Arms, Replica Arms, Dixie or any of the others, they were just an importer/exporter. their guns were all on a level with any of the other dealers.

 

[deadidick]

Again thanks Wes/Tex as I thought just needed to hear it from someone with more experience and knowledge than me. Hawes 1851 confederate navy 36ca in great shape $125 think I'll go pick it up this morning! :bow:

 

[Wes/Tex]

Sounds like a good plan. Assuming nothing wrong mechanically, that's a really good price. :thumbsup:

 

[deadidick]

Got it 44cal fired and functions great

 

[cynthialee]

Got it 44cal fired and functions great

hey right on! Can't argue with that.

What did you find out about it? What powder charge did you settle on?

 

[deadidick]

haven't put it on paper yet just fired a couple round to check function 30gr of pyrodex

 

[Zonie]

If your Hawes is a Confederate brass frame gun, do not use 30 grain powder loads in it.

Although the cylinder and barrel are safe with heavy powder loads, the brass frame can be damaged.

Several different things can happen when many large powder loads are fired in a brass framed gun.

The large barrel arbor that the cylinder rotates on can be pulled out of the receiver. It is screwed into place and the brass threads do not have the strength of a steel frame gun.

The large recoil the cylinder imparts to the frame at the rear when it fires can deform the brass. In at least one case I know of, that has led to the gun chain firing.
Chain firing is when more than one chamber fires.

If you keep your powder loads down in the 18-22 range your pistol should last for years without damage.

 

[deadidick]

Thanks its not a confederate no brass frame case hardened , not a 36 as i was told. Octagon barrel case hard frame 44 cal. Do you know what model it would be

 

[Wes/Tex]

Basically, it's a fantasy gun since Colt didn't make an octagon barreled .44 on the Navy frame. Now, they're generally just called .44 Navy revolver although Dixie sometimes hangs the "Yank" term on some of these with little regard to whether they have the brass or steel frames. They're good shooters but not actual copies of a real Colt model.

 

[CaptainKirk]

As a side note, many Hawes imports were used in many of the classic westerns of the 50's and 60's

 

[brubincam]

had a haws 1858 44cal years ago and it put round balls deeper into wood than my brothers 44mag