Help ID these two Flintlocks

[dobk]

Both are French style. I am curious what style and period they represent and whose parts kits was used to make them if possible. First gun is marked TVLL on the lock and listed as 64 Cal. with a 41 1/2" barrel. The second is listed as 62 Cal. with a 40" barrel. No other markings noted on either one. Thanks.

 

[Rifleman1776]

Rifled or smooth?

 

[dobk]

Funny thing is I don't know yet. :idunno: I suspect with the sights they are rifled but will be happy anyway if they turn out to be smooth.

 

[dobk]

I just got word that they are both smooth bore. Can Admin move this topic to that forum please.

 

[MTCossack]

I was very tempted to bid on these in the Rock Island auction yesterday. I think the 1st is a Centermark French Fusil. Clay Smith has one for sale on his site, and you can see that the barrel length and sideplate match up.

Regardless, it's definitely a French Tulle fowler/fusil copy.

The second one seems to be a colonial fowler of some sort - It looks more English or Pennsylvania styled than French to me, in spite of what the listing said. I don't know enough to speak up beyond that.

Did you win these? I was curious how much they sold for.

 

[dobk]

Yes, I won them with a bid of $950, buyers premium bumped it to $1093 and then there will be shipping.

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
The guns are fantasies and do not represent any historical examples. They simply use some mid-18th century French styling for trade and hunting guns. The ramrods are particularly poor.

dave

 

[nhmoose]

Good buy if the price was for both :hatsoff:

 

[stubshaft]

Good buy if the price was for both :hatsoff:

That would be a heck of a buy if it was for both!

 

[dobk]

Good buy if the price was for both :hatsoff:

That would be a heck of a buy if it was for both!

Yes, the price is for both.

 

[bud in pa]

If I were you I'd go and buy a lottery ticket while your luck is still hot. :thumbsup:

 

[Stumpkiller]

Agree that the second one is not a French style.

Kinda Pennsylvania . . . ish.

 

[dobk]

I think the 1st is a Centermark French Fusil. Clay Smith has one for sale on his site, and you can see that the barrel length and sideplate match up.

That appears to be it. Thanks

 

[nhmoose]

SCORE!!!!!!! :thumbsup:

 

[rickystl]

Congratulations !! A super buy for both. :thumbsup:

Rick