Help ID this Flintlock

[Loja man]

So finally my curiosity has gotten the better of me. While I was out of country my older brother bought a flint lock to hang in
his hunting/man cave room. I believe he bought it at auction site. As I’ve spent more time on the form looking at guns y’all have made my curiosity has continued to increase. I’m sure it’s a kit…..it is not refined in fit and finish like I would expect a original or professionally made one.
Barrel is 43 7/8 long and 7/8 on the flats. No visible markings on barrel.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

You are correct I think.
The builder had some right ideas though. The Lock mortise is rather well done, while the wrist is a tiny bit "clunky" from what I see in the photos. It also looks like the builder polished the lock and then browned it, which (imho) is correct, but often neglected in builder-rifles these days. That's also an excellent piece of wood, but I noticed the builder omitted any sort of patch box. So probably a hobby builder, but not bad... not bad at all. Better than a bunch of the ones I've seen over the years sold by a ML parts company (again imho).

LD

 

[Loja man]

Any thoughts on if it is a “kit gun” like a Kibler? Or is it more likely someone ordered separate components then assembled them all?

 

[martin9]

I'd say not a kit but a components build. Kinda looks like maybe a "back in the day" build...60s-80s. Seems like I've seen that # on some old Bud Siler locks. could be wrong about that though.

 

[EC121]

It looks to be a parts gun with a Siler lock assembled by Richard Herring. They were good locks in their day. Siler sold castings to a lot of folks who assembled them. That one needs some grease on the contact surfaces.

 

[excess650]

I see a Berks County comb, Lancaster TG, Jaeger rear sight, Siler lock, can't see the buttplate, sideplate?

 

[martin9]

I see a Berks County comb, Lancaster TG, Jaeger rear sight, Siler lock, can't see the buttplate, sideplate?

Yep, noticed that too....the Jaeger sight is the only thing that bugs me....thankfully the easiest to remedy

 

[Loja man]

Thank you all for your thoughts!! Some day I may try shooting it!!! Of course I would check the barrel first but it all seems in working order. Basically he wanted it for his man cave because it was a flintlock and had a beautiful stock! He has no plans of ever shooting it

 

[ord sgt]

It looks to be a parts gun with a Siler lock assembled by Richard Herring. They were good locks in their day. Siler sold castings to a lot of folks who assembled them. That one needs some grease on the contact surfaces.

Siler locks.....good in their day. My Siler locks work as well today as they did when I bought them in 1985. They still spark quite well with English black flints, even spark with chert too. This lock is newer. Mine don't have a serial number. That could have come after Chambers bought the Siler line of locks.
The rear sight looks like the one on my Jaeger.

 

[EC121]

To clarify your misunderstanding I was talking about Herring's locks specifically not Silers in general. At the time Herring was assembling Siler locks Jack Garner talked about assembling a Siler kit in 20 minutes. No telling how many he put together and installed in his TVM rifles. Would you want one like that or one of Herrings(who was a retired machinist)? Locks and Stuff Silers were hit or miss. Some good and some not so good. I expect there were other unmarked locks assembled in someone's garage with a hand drill. Siler's design has stood the test of time, but it is only as good as the assembler. I have 5 or 6 Chambers Silers right now in LH and RH rifles that work great.