Help identifying this Brown Bess

[Rudyard]

Dosn't look to bad to me the blueing is odd but if its Italion or maybe a Coach Harness made in UK but either would bear proof marks ..Some body took some care ..Prices arn't my concern & its NOT Indian.
Rudyard

 

[Brianc]

Whatever the deal is the seller was angry and stopped responding when I proved I can purchase a new one for less. Like I said I’d never responded at all had he priced it on Craigslist. He said it’s a “rare small batch “ or some such nonsense if I recall correctly to me used it’s just not there

 

[Pine Hawker]

he's FOS IMHO. another artist of DECEPTION. As Ld stated a kit gun parts out . Blued. I've never seen a blued Bess in the field IMHO ..... the seller is smoking something strong and WAY illegal.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

He said it’s a “rare small batch “ or some such nonsense...,

So he may simply have been told that.., and as I wrote, when one points out the problems it's like telling a brand new dad his kid is butt-ugly.
IF it was a "limited run" then he should've had the provenance with it..., he didn't.

There ARE repro bess out there that were part of a limited run.
A Pedersoli Bess with a lock that is marked "Stowe 1776".
I have been told that Turner Kirkland, founder of Dixie Gun Works, ordered a bunch of Pedersoli muskets (maybe they were just kits) with the locks marked as such, for the Bicentennial, AND because Mr. Stowe had passed away and Mr. Kirkland considered Mr. Stowe a very dear friend. I am also told that he sold the locks by themselves too. I have seen two such Bess... one a standard Pedersoli SLP, and the other a custom made quasi 1st model, with the Stowe lock. (The Stowe lock being an SLP lock with different engraving is the wrong lock for a LLP musket..., but the owner didn't care and it was a good looking musket.)

They are just an oddity, but some of the reenactors like them. IF the guy with the OP's Bess has a Stowe musket..., the lack of the proper "Stowe 1776" marked lock removes anything special about the piece.

LD

 

[Pine Hawker]

There should be markings of some kind, either on top the bbl near breech, or underneath the bbl

Me I'd let someone else have it & buy a :genuine" Pedersoli

Cabelas has them on sale for $995

 

[FlinterNick]

Its a bicentenial Navy Arms Bess by Pedersoli. The trigger guard lug pin is through the lock mortise and not the bottom portion of lock panel, this is actually correct not like the current model In production. I have the same pattern bess, the only thing I changed on mine was I had a jeweler change the Lockplate from Grice to Tower, I reduced the wood around the lock and tang Slightly because when I bought the gun it had damage to it. Otherwise I didn’t go crazy on a defrab.

The coach harness bess had a much more correct stock pattern, larger butt stock and wrist And I’m not certain but I do think they were stock in English Walnut.

This doesn’t look like a coach harness bess at all. Not to mention a 46” barrel that would have Birmingham proof marks.