How is this Schuetzen FFFg Powder?

[HDMM]

I've honestly never used anything but Goex over the years, never even tried any BP substitutes, was almost going to order some Hodgden 777, but before I did I called a old Gunshop I used to work at to see if they still carried powder and they did. Although they were out of the Goex FFFg, they had this Schuetzen stuff. I also managed to get some of the ever elusive Remington #10 caps The salesman was saying Goex is closing down....first I've heard of that, then again I'm kinda out of the loop on these things nowadays.

 

[RobertIN]

Scheutzen is good to go!

 

[Jim K]

I like it better than Goex.

 

[William Hagewood]

It mostly depends on what your gun likes but I have a couple of rifles that don’t like it(dirty), but others do. Guess you will just have to try it and see

 

[Grenadier1758]

I've had good experience with Schuetzen Powder.

 

[RiverRat]

I have always used Goex, bought it by the case. I bought 6 lbs of Grafs powder and they say it Scheutzen powder relabeled. I haven’t used any yet but I heard that it is good.

 

[longcruise]

I've used Scheutzen 3f exclusively for over ten years now. In everything - 45, 50, 54, 58. It's been good powder for me.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

I like Goex better but nothing wrong with it.

 

[morehops52]

I have found it to be the dirtiest powder I have used. I prefer Goex or Swiss (hard to get here). Many disagree.

 

[cynthialee]

good powder, a little dirty, but a swab of the barrel handles that

I shoot Goex, but I have no qualms with Schuetzen

 

[Togo]

There was an explosion at the GOEX plant on October 30th, nobody was hurt. I haven't heard if they are in production or not. GOEX is my go to also. When I was at the September Fall Nationals in Friendship, IN I tried buying a case of GOEX 3F, they didn't have a single bottle of 3F, I bought 15 lbs Schuetzen 3F at $20 per pound. I am mainly using it in my trade gun and save the GOEX for my rifles. Schuetzen works great, it's dirty as others have mentioned.

 

[HDMM]

Thank you for all the replies! Hopefully I'll have some time to give this stuff a try over the weekend. The explosion at the Goex plant rings a bell now. The salesman at the GS said they were going out of business, hopefully that's not the case. The shop did have other Goex powder, just not the 3F I needed. I may go back and pick up some more of the Remington #10's while they have them.

 

[wiscoaster]

I've used Schuetzen and agree with the above opinions about it being a bit dirtier, though I'm comparing it against Swiss, which is my preferred BP. I haven't used Goex.

 

[Banjoman]

Nothing wrong with the brand.

 

[dave951]

I have no problems with Schuetzen and it's no dirtier than Goex. I prefer Schuetzen because they support youth black powder programs while Goex does not. So unless and until Goex changes their policy in that regard, I'll never use it promote it. So keep that in mind when reading threads about declining black powder shooting.

 

[B P Maniac Shooter]

I have no problems with Schuetzen and it's no dirtier than Goex. I prefer Schuetzen because they support youth black powder programs while Goex does not. So unless and until Goex changes their policy in that regard, I'll never use it promote it. So keep that in mind when reading threads about declining black powder shooting.

Couldn't have said that comment any better!
For me Schuetzen does shoot cleaner and more reliable.....and most importantly these days - its available.

 

[longcruise]

Lot's of variation in how dirty a powder is is related to the lube being used.

 

[Twisted_1in66]

I've honestly never used anything but Goex over the years, never even tried any BP substitutes, was almost going to order some Hodgden 777, but before I did I called a old Gunshop I used to work at to see if they still carried powder and they did. Although they were out of the Goex FFFg, they had this Schuetzen stuff. I also managed to get some of the ever elusive Remington #10 caps The salesman was saying Goex is closing down....first I've heard of that, then again I'm kinda out of the loop on these things nowadays.

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If I recall correctly that was originally branded "Elephant Powder". Elephant Powder worked fine, but was the dirtiest powder out there, meaning it would foul your Muzzleloader far more than any other brand. At a winter Biathlon in Vermont in 2003, there were two cans of Elephant powder on the door prize table along with lots of various muzzleloading accessories. They would announce the item out and then draw a ticket for it. Those two cans were donated back 4 times before someone finally kept them.

I have since used Schuetzen extensively for reenactments, where we just fire blank charges using paper cartridges such as those used during the Rev War, but without the lead ball. Firing blank charges leaves a lot more fouling that live firing with a ball or conical. Schuetzen fouls muzzleloaders much more than Goex does, but it certainly ignites reliably. The fouling was not a problem as long as you cleaned your pan (wet some patching material and wipe the pan or lick your thumb and wipe the pan) and kept your vent clean. I have not used it for live firing lead balls because I always used GOEX or Swiss for that. So I can't say how well it worked for live firing, but it worked fine for firing blanks. It was just dirtier than other brands of BP.

 

[Omahkapi'si]

It’s all you can get here. I have some Goex but save it for special occasions.

 

[longcruise]

If I recall correctly that was originally branded "Elephant Powder".

Scheutzen branded as Elephant??

I don't think that was ever the case. Pretty sure it always came out of the Wano plant whereas Elephant came out of Brazil.