Incredible Testimonal

[jdixon]

On the Cabin Creek websight the following comment has ben posted by a customer regarding what he was able to do with one of their rifles:

"Enclosed are photos of 2 buck that were taken with "Yorktown" rifle. The first was shot at 160 yards. The second one was shot at a strong 275 yards. This should say a lot about the craftsmanship of your rifles. The quality is outstanding and I believe the finest made. If anyone wants a rifle of the finest workmanship, I would be happy to expound your rifles."

275 yrds :shocked2: We argue around here about 100 yrd shots being too far for an open sighted flinter. I don't know how he did this. Lets assume that he is shooting the .54, and also lets assume he has got that thing loaded up to where he is getting 2000 fps at the muzzle, which is possible. At 275 yrs that round ball (again I have to assume he was using a round ball) has dropped over 10 feet and is only packing a little more than 200 fpe. The ballistics notwithstanding, how do you aim in the field at these distances? No doubt this rifle from Cabin Creek is a beauty, but this 275 yrd shot seems pretty fantastic to me. Can enyone else shine some light on the facts here?

 

[roundball]

On the Cabin Creek websight the following comment has ben posted by a customer regarding what he was able to do with one of their rifles:

"Enclosed are photos of 2 buck that were taken with "Yorktown" rifle. The first was shot at 160 yards. The second one was shot at a strong 275 yards. This should say a lot about the craftsmanship of your rifles. The quality is outstanding and I believe the finest made. If anyone wants a rifle of the finest workmanship, I would be happy to expound your rifles."

275 yrds :shocked2: We argue around here about 100 yrd shots being too far for an open sighted flinter. I don't know how he did this. Lets assume that he is shooting the .54, and also lets assume he has got that thing loaded up to where he is getting 2000 fps at the muzzle, which is possible. At 275 yrs that round ball (again I have to assume he was using a round ball) has dropped over 10 feet and is only packing a little more than 200 fpe. The ballistics notwithstanding, how do you aim in the field at these distances? No doubt this rifle from Cabin Creek is a beauty, but this 275 yrd shot seems pretty fantastic to me. Can enyone else shine some light on the facts here?

I'd have to see it to believe it...and then I'd only give him credit for a once in a lifetime fluke shot and call him irresponsible for trying.
Sounds like something a paid 'shill' would say for a company...on that thought, are this guy's initials T.B.?

 

[Jumpshot]

Can enyone else shine some light on the facts here?

Over-enthusiastic range estimation.

 

[jethro224]

:bull:

OR;

Over-enthusiastic range estimation.

:thumbsup:

OR;

maybe it was a typo and they meant 275 FEET.

 

[MercerLake]

:bull: : This is the kind of thing that really gives hunting with anything a bad name. You'd need a computer in your pocket to know where to hold to allow for drop let alone even a gentle breeze. You can't wound a paper target, but to try a shot at an animal at the described range shows total disregard for the animal and total disregard for anyone's common sense. I've had some folks come onto our local range and start shooting at 50 yards and argue that it's really 100 yards. I suppose if you paced something off in the field and took "baby steps" over the ditches and hills you might come up with similar numbers. :blah: :blah:

 

[Halftail]

That sounds like :bull: to me.That's all,and they expect us to suck it aboard and buy from them because of :bull: like that.....I say .... :youcrazy:

 

I think the guy shows a tremendous lack of shooting judgement and an intergallactical poor sense of distance.

 

[Osprey]

Regardless of the individual's lack of veracity, or poor range estimation, or minimal hunting ethics - whichever it may be - I put more blame on a company that would use such a claim to sell their products. Surely they know how unlikely it is and how irresponsible it is to promote such shots afield. :nono:

 

[bob1961]

just looked at cabin creeks site and couldn't find them pictures or artical :v .............bob

 

[jdixon]

Its under the Yorktown Rifle (which I have been looking at hard lately) - customer comments - posted by a guy in Wyoming. see -[url] http://www.cabincreek.net/comments.html[/url]

 

[rabbit03]

Hell, that aint nothin!

I shot my Big 58 off into the air the other day toward Iraq and three days later they reported one of them there insurgents was shot with a roundball, right between the eyes. You know it must be true :rotf: :blah: :bull:

rabbit03

 

[Halftail]

Hell, that aint nothin!

I shot my Big 58 off into the air the other day toward Iraq and three days later they reported one of them there insurgents was shot with a roundball, right between the eyes. You know it must be true :rotf: :blah: :bull:

rabbit03

:rotf:

 

[Stumpkiller]

A friend and I used to woodchuck hunt with muzzleloaders. We tried some "crazy" shots - he had a .50 T/C Hawkin flint and I had a .36 T/C Seneca. The best either of us ever mustered was a 150 yard super unlucky chuck I pasted with a .36 Maxi-Hunter (Sorry, I was young and reckless . . . this was early 1980's).

I doubt my current eyesight would allow the same today, and I would never be tempted to try even that distance on a deer. If the claim is with a roundball I'd say it's a load of hogswallop. I'll have to get Zonie to calc-u-late what a 5mph crosswind does to a roundball over 275 yards. Probably five feet of "wind doping" you'd have to factor in.

 

[Mulebrain]

I believe it for sure! Not a problem as long as the deer is tied to a tree, and you have all the time in the world :grin:

Just like fishing stories, no different!

 

Your comments go to the very core of the issue :thumbsup:

 

[BrownBear]

Bingo.

Posting that claim reflects more on Cabin Creek than the fool who made the claim, much less tried the shots.

I've shot my 54 (peep sights, globe front) and seriously accurate loads at 100, 200, 300 and 400 yards just to see what was going on way out there.

At around 300 yards accuracy really goes to pieces with RB, I've heard because of the drop below the speed of sound at about that range. It wouldn't be a surprise that he happened to land in a herd of deer at 275, but I doubt he could call the shot on a single deer.

As for the 160 yard shot, yeah, I'd believe that if the guy really had his act together and a good set of eyes. But I sure wouldn't respect him or ever hunt with him if I knew him. Not my kind of hunter.

 

Let me put this in perspective with a story: The longest shot I ever made on a game animal was ~270 yds [paced by two people]--but it was with a .308 and a 4X scope. Got the critter right through the heart--it was a groundhog. This critter was a speck in my 4X scope--my partner had 10X binocs and ID'd the critter before I would shoot it. I shot from a kneeling position aiming over a foot over the beast's head. It was a lucky shot [but don't tell my partner, who thinks I am a good shot]. With open sights there would have been no way to see the critter at that range--and I had excellent eyes (20/15)back then. Now, a groundhog is much smaller than a deer, but I doubt the shot --if it happened--could have been anything but a lucky one...

 

[PreglerD]

The farest shot I made in my hunters life was with a 6,5x55 swedish Mauser repeating rifle with 3-9x40 scope at 160 meters at a roedoe. I hit it right in the boiler room. But I knew the distance exactly because it was my hunting ground and I observed the deer nearly twenty minutes and finally I had a modern rifle. With a ML and PRB at this distance, 250 m, and open sight it is impossible. The bullet is much to slow and energyless at this distance. I measured ballistic data for cal. 54. With a 220 grs RB you need 120 grs of WANO PP to get about 730-740 ftlps at 100 meters. Shooting with this load at the doubledistance will make the bullet even more slow and it will only have about 150 ftlps or less. That won't kill a[url] deer.In[/url] GE we would say it is big hunters latin = "Jägerlatein".

Regards

Kirrmeister

 

[PitchyPine]

I think he added a one in front of the first number and that felt so good he added a two in front of the last number. :haha:

 

[tom hargrove]

i seen a marine from the 3rd div. take out a water buff at over 8oo-yards with an- m14 with fell in his tracks still tied to the plow. :rotf: .