Installing lock question

[robstock]

So I have gotten my barrel and lock inlet properly. I was looking at locations for the lock screws. For the rear screw I see no way to install it without drilling the breech plug. Since this is my first build I wanted check and see how normal this is. Both build books I have indicate this is sometimes necessary.

 

[rchas]

Yes, it is typical to have to drill a hole or make a notch in the breechplug tang for the rear lock screw. Make sure to make the hole/notch large enough to give plenty of clearance for the screw.

 

[robstock]

Yes, it is typical to have to drill a hole or make a notch in the breechplug tang for the rear lock screw. Make sure to make the hole/notch large enough to give plenty of clearance for the screw.

Thanks for the quick response.

 

[Sidney Smith]

Yep, I had to drill through the tang on my Lancaster rifle. Make the hole big enough to allow for expansion and contraction of the stock.

 

[Mulebrain]

There is a rather large gap behind the lock pan. Tell me you cut it by mistake and you kept the piece.

 

[robstock]

There is a rather large gap behind the lock pan. Tell me you cut it by mistake and you kept the piece.

That is the way the stock came. I did not cut it.

 

[Mulebrain]

That is the way the stock came. I did not cut it.

Roger that

Was this a pre inlet, or you had to do all the inletting? Can you post a pick of the entire lock panel with lock installed

Something is a miss here and would like to evaluate

Thanks

 

[Mulebrain]

Here is one I am finishing up

 

[robstock]

Here is one I am finishing up

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It was pre-inlet. I believe the kit came from Pecatonica. I can see what you are saying about the gap. Not sure why it was squared off on the lock side. It wasn’t on the other side. Now this kit was given to me by my sister. Her husband passed last year. He may have done it. I don’t know. But it is what it is now.

 

[bullshot]

Here is one I am finishing up

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I was a member of CTLR from late '70s until Hugo hit in '89. Wonder if any of the old timers are still active. Bob Hooper, formerly of Mt Pleasant

 

[Mulebrain]

It was pre-inlet. I believe the kit came from Pecatonica. I can see what you are saying about the gap. Not sure why it was squared off on the lock side. It wasn’t on the other side. Now this kit was given to me by my sister. Her husband passed last year. He may have done it. I don’t know. But it is what it is now.


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Understood, and in the course of your build you may be able to save a piece you can fill that gap with.

That lock may need to be inletted more, as there is a gap. That lock plate needs to be flush against the barrel.

Regards

 

[robstock]

Understood, and in the course of your build you may be able to save a piece you can fill that gap with.

That lock may need to be inletted more, as there is a gap. That lock plate needs to be flush against the barrel.

Regards

Not sure I had it completely seated when I took the pic. However I will check to ensure that it is flush. Thanks for pointing that one out to me.

 

[Mgbruch]

It does look like you still have a gap between the side flat of your barrel and the lock bolster. They need to mate in order to keep fouling from going into the internals of your lock. This photo shows the fit you should have.

The wood on this rifle is taken back to the breech like yours. But, as you can see from the inletting black, the back of the locks fence mates to the wood. Your lock plate is pretty far forward, probably due to the location of the touch hole. It's not uncommon for the rear of the fence to be a little forward of the breech though... usually the wood is left as in Mulebrain's photo. You could carefully fit and glue a piece in. The two pieces will need to mate perfectly, and you should stain the surfaces before gluing. Then, if the finished rifle if stained a little dark, and that area is even a bit darker still... It's notice-ability will be at a minimum.

 

[EC121]

It looks like the stop block on the side of the cock isn't inlet yet or the lock panel is still too wide to let the plate seat all the way.

 

[reddogge]

Any piecing you do behind the fence will be hidden 99% of the time by the hammer so will not be too noticeable.

 

[2 shots]

is it me or is there nothing for the lock plate to sit on??

 

[Mulebrain]

is it me or is there nothing for the lock plate to sit on??

Can you elaborate?

 

[2 shots]

in the pic in mgbruch post above. i just see a hole for the lock. no "ledge" for it to sit on .maybe its me.

 

[Mgbruch]

The photo was taken after inletting the lock plate alone; none of the internals had been inlet. I take it that you mean, by a "ledge", that you mean the edge of the inlet that the lock plate rests on after all of the internal parts have been inlet. I took the photo a few rifles ago, as an example of that particular step of the process.

 

[2 shots]

got it.