This popped up on youtube today and thought some might find it interesting . He claims it to be an original Islamic doglock musket in .69 caliber. Seems to be in very good condition for something from the 17th century . Anyone think this might be a repro from the 19th or 20th century ? I found it interesting non the less. Look at the size of that flint ! A very ornate and massive lock with almost black wood. Any "experts" on these types of weapons care to shed some light ? Carry on.
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Very cool. Somehow I missed this Thread when it was posted earlier. What he is actually shooting is an original Algerian musket. And likely from the early to mid-19th century. The style of these huge miquelet locks was unique to these Algerian guns. Many think these muskets are older than they are. They were used by the locals through at least the 1880's.
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Interesting, thanks for the info and pics. When I posted this back in August and got no replies, I figured there was just no interest in this kind of thing. Glad to see someone with some knowledge chime in. -Thanks
Kyron, check out the Pre-flintlock forum. Lots more about these swell guns there!
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I have seen a few of these (pictures), most all have the hole in the dog. Any idea why?
To stop the top jaw from twisting when the dual-handled top screw is tightened? My best guess ...
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I don't know. However, I've some locks I've seen have this hole filled with a jewel or other decoration.
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What you're calling the Post is not part of the dog. It's just a flat guide to align the top and bottom jaws together. Just like other miquelet type locks. The difference here is the guide is forged into the TOP jaw versus the bottom jaw like you see on most miquelet locks.
Another interesting feature with these Algerian locks: While it's believed they originated from the earliest Spanish locks, the mainspring operated on the toe of the cock versus the heel, ala Roman lock style. The only reason for that small spring behind the dog catch is limit the backward travel of the dog catch when going to the cock firing position. The cock moves back just enough to get it out of the way when ready to fire. Also, on the front left corner of the lower jaw, there is a "flat" spot forged into the jaw to allow a smoother landing on the pan fence after firing. Many of these locks are actually maker marked and dated. I have a few of these locks. Let me see if I can find some other photos that will show more details. These locks are built so robust that I've never seen one with a broken mainspring.
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I think it has to do with releasing and/or holding the dog lock out of the way to release the sear. My lock does not have the spring so it stays released when pulled back. Which by the way takes effort and a tool that fit into the hole would definitely help. However, the hole does not show wear as I would expect if it was used in this manner.
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It’s just decorative serves no real purpose, like bevels on a spring it’s just style
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