Jug Choke Octagon to round?

[wtilenw]

Can an octagon to round barrel be jug choked? There doesn't seem to be a lot of metal to remove there. Also, how does jug choking affect round ball shooting?
Thanks,
Idaho PRB

 

[Capt. Jas.]

Yep they can be jugged as long as there is enough meat. Most all the available smoothebore oct/round barrels I know of that are readily available for building have enough wall.
Here is one Mike Brooks had jugged for my son that is the Colerain Griffin Fowler profile. http://www.fowlingguns.com/englishfowler6.html

As far as round ball goes, we dont shoot patched round balls in smoothe guns but many shoot balls out of guns jugged modified or less.

Have not tried ball in this one yet but some claim a jug makes a looser pattern on ball and some claim it does not affect it. I assume they are both commenting about patched balls. Fot that I like a rifle.

 

[roundball]

Can an octagon to round barrel be jug choked? There doesn't seem to be a lot of metal to remove there. Also, how does jug choking affect round ball shooting?
Thanks,
Idaho PRB

I have a couple of GM .62cals Jug Choked...one full, one Imp.Cyl.Plus.
I was not pleased with the PRB accuracy out of the full choke barrel.

Have not yet tried PRBs in the I.C.+ barrel...and not sure that I will given the expense involved in shooting a bigger bore just to be shooting it.

I had Ed Rayl add rifling to a GM .62cal smoothbore barrel and use that for PRBs...and just use the Jug Choked smoothbore barrels for shot loads now.

 

[Homesteader]

I see from another thread that jug choking was done way back when, but how common was it? I was under the impression that most 18th century smoothies were simple cylinder bore guns. Am I wrong about this? Is the jug choke something only a rich man would have done, or would a farmer, trapper, trader, whatever, have been likely to have one? I'm trying to get a feel for how commonplace or unusual this modification would have been.
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(Perhaps I should have started a new thread in Historical Accuracy for this, but it seemed appropriate to the topic. Hope it is.)

 

[paulvallandigham]

It was not common, frankly, because the shot was not up to the quality needed to take advantage of "choke" of any kind. It took some time before manufacturers perfected the use of drop towers to create round shot pellets, and then found a way to control the size of the shot.

In the colonies, shot was made by hand, was usually square cut from thin sheets of lead poured out on planks, or the hearth of a fireplace. W/O being round, the pellets could not hold a pattern, no matter what constriction was placed in the barrel.

 

[roundball]

If we can believe the various references that have surfaced, apparently jug choking as we know it today began in the 1860's-70's and has spread since...so its not a 'modern' thing.

And since it was definitely something that people could have done to their muzzleloaders back when muzzleloaders were still in vogue, that suited me fine because I wanted to get more effective range out of my smoothbore Flintlock for the small size turkey head, but did not want to resort to any modern things like plastic shot cups.

The Full Jug Choke made my .62cal a 40 yard turkey hunters dream...filled both tags with it the first season I used it...just load powder, wad, shot, & card.

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