There is a French fusil (Tulle) on Track of the Wolf that was built from Track's parts by Kendall Brady. Does anyone here know of his work. If so I would appreciate your opinions. Specifically, how his work, this gun, would compare to a TVM or Centermark. thanks again, Mike.
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Kendall Brady (anyone know his work?)
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The workmanship looks ok on the TOW gun but as usually the wrong barrel/lock finish is used and the lock is not correct (needs modification)for that type of gun this is the "norm" from whatever builder you use as a rule unless you discuss a bit of French gun history before the gun is built.
I bought one of his guns and had to send it back . the lugs that pin the the barrel on fell off , the browning came off and everytime I touched the stock the stain came off on my hands and clothes. I called track of the wolf and they took it back with out question witch I thought was very good of them. In my book track is number one.they sent my money right back. maybe his guns have got better. I think it was this march or april that I bought the gun and had to send it back.
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Hey Gemoke,
When is your's due? I should be getting mine next month. 20ga, 42" bbl, big English Trade Gun Lock, nice curly maple, no carving. Gray patina finished steel furniture, including lock and bbl.
Anthony has sent me lots of pics. Anybody want to see a couple, send me a PM.
Java Man
When is your's due? I should be getting mine next month. 20ga, 42" bbl, big English Trade Gun Lock, nice curly maple, no carving. Gray patina finished steel furniture, including lock and bbl.
Anthony has sent me lots of pics. Anybody want to see a couple, send me a PM.
Java Man
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Out of curiosity, I'm wondering why you guys are getting these european guns stocked in curly maple? ::
I can probably count on one hand the number of walnut stocked contemporary french guns out of the 100's that I've seen over the years.
Don't get me wrong here, the guns in the pictures that have been posted look quite well done, I'just a little lost on the wood choice.
I've also noticed one of the big manufacturers offers just about all european guns but only offers stocks in curly maple.....what's up with that? :huh:
I can probably count on one hand the number of walnut stocked contemporary french guns out of the 100's that I've seen over the years.
Don't get me wrong here, the guns in the pictures that have been posted look quite well done, I'just a little lost on the wood choice.
I've also noticed one of the big manufacturers offers just about all european guns but only offers stocks in curly maple.....what's up with that? :huh:
I think that the majority of buyers do not know what kind of wood should be on a French fusil,( some don't care) and many like the curly maple, the maple is probably easier for them to work which = more $ and few builders are willing to suggest that something else would be a better choice, often when asking a builder about his guns level of authenticity it is like asking a Ford dealer what the best truck would be to purchase...he ain't gonna say Chevy. I think with the cyber connection making gun history more available that the buyers tolerance for generic non-PC stuff may be somewhat limited than it has in the past. I know of many who found out about what their guns were and weren't after the fact and would have made different choices had they known more in the beginning. Builders and supplier have to be more carefull now when making a sales pitch about their product from a PC perspective.
A very good query,Mike and a a very good answer. TG,I suspect you're right on the restocking question especially on the French guns.The consensus among students of these French fusils is that many{and some say most}of the iron mounted Fusils de chasse were restocked during their period of use.This means that colonial gunsmiths had to secure wood for the restocking.Since most of these guns were used and restocked in Canada, one must ask what wood was used. There was a thread on the Builder's Bench today forum by Rich Pierce which should be very helpful.He concludes that cherry,walnut,red maple, and sugar maple are excellent woods for stocks.He also mentions American beech and birch as suitable for[url] gunstocks.In[/url] the Montreal Merchants records for 1696 is found "6 pieces of walnut timber to mount fusils of 2 1/4 diameter{the writer probably meant planks 2 1/4 in. thick},6 lock-plates for fusils ordinaire,6 lock-plates for fusils Boucanniers".And in the same records for 746-47 is shown "500 ready- to- use spare gun-locks and "200 lbs of Spring steel"
French trade goods intended for trade with Natives such as gunpowder,flints,and fittings for guns were kept in the King's stores in Quebec and Montreal...Over 2000 such parts have been unearthed at the archealogical site of the King's stores in Quebec City. These brass parts for fine French trading muskets were made at St. Etienne in France {around 1730-1760}"...,",The Great Peace" by Beaulieu and Viau P.23. The authors show a complete side plate and parts of a butt plate and trigger guard and it is my understanding from my friend Henri that a veritable treasure trove of parts was found
I do not mean to imply that there was wholesale manufacturing of fusils in New France but it's known that some was done.I doubt the use of curly maple or any other highly figured wood but I do think some restocking was being done with probably walnut and plain maple.When I had my Fusil {Ca.1670's} built I had it made from plain maple and used an English cock with the French lock.We had one picture of the gun taken in 1889 and I felt that the gun was likely a restock with an English cock on the early French 3 screw lock so I had it built using very plain maple with that in mind.I do think,however, that far too many French fusils de chasse are being made today with the wrong wood and in the case of the so called Types C and D with the wrong locks, not to mention inappropriate gun furniture.
I guess I have said enough here
Tom Patton :m2c:
French trade goods intended for trade with Natives such as gunpowder,flints,and fittings for guns were kept in the King's stores in Quebec and Montreal...Over 2000 such parts have been unearthed at the archealogical site of the King's stores in Quebec City. These brass parts for fine French trading muskets were made at St. Etienne in France {around 1730-1760}"...,",The Great Peace" by Beaulieu and Viau P.23. The authors show a complete side plate and parts of a butt plate and trigger guard and it is my understanding from my friend Henri that a veritable treasure trove of parts was found
I do not mean to imply that there was wholesale manufacturing of fusils in New France but it's known that some was done.I doubt the use of curly maple or any other highly figured wood but I do think some restocking was being done with probably walnut and plain maple.When I had my Fusil {Ca.1670's} built I had it made from plain maple and used an English cock with the French lock.We had one picture of the gun taken in 1889 and I felt that the gun was likely a restock with an English cock on the early French 3 screw lock so I had it built using very plain maple with that in mind.I do think,however, that far too many French fusils de chasse are being made today with the wrong wood and in the case of the so called Types C and D with the wrong locks, not to mention inappropriate gun furniture.
I guess I have said enough here
Tom Patton :m2c:
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Makes no difference to me if they are curley maple or walnut,to each their own, I was just curious why the majority of folks have them built that way. Personally for me if I wanted a flashy euro gun I'd get a fancy piece of walnut for it....but that's just me and I'm a little odd. :youcrazy:
