Kibler has announced a Hawken Kit in the works.

[BuffaloSoldier]

$25 in 1800 is equal to $610 today. I would have owned a Hawken back in the fur trade era.

https://www.officialdata.org/us/inf...alent,cumulative price increase of 2,342.77%.

But how long/hard wound you have to work for that $25.00?

 

[user 36911]

Some guys would have to work a long time to save $600 today. Yet, they still own a Hawken.

If it was 1830 i'd be working as a hunter in a brigade and supplying meat to a fort too. Not sure what that would earn me. However, no matter how long it took. I would have bought a Hawken. It would have my tool to earn more money.

 

[HighUintas]

I don't believe it. We We're all so obsessed with the old timey stuff that if you were alive back then I bet you'd be toting around a matchlock and griping about the newfangled flintlocks

 

[ColonialRifleSmith]

Well, through the years, I've heard rumors of different guns Jim has in the works. When it hits the market, I'll believe it. Semper Fi.

 

[user 36911]

I don't believe it. We We're all so obsessed with the old timey stuff that if you were alive back then I bet you'd be toting around a matchlock and griping about the newfangled flintlocks

I believe what I don't like now. I wouldn't have liked back then either. Which means what I like now, i'd have liked then. I have a soft spot in my heart for a Hawken.

You know what Popeye says..............I yam what I yam.

 

[Sam squanch]

If you put a deer in the front trunk, and let the legs hang out on each side, it really does look like a bug.

Turns heads when you drive back to town too.

Check out the very bad movie, Gigantic Spider Invasion…… the giant spider is a VW beetle with spider legs attached……

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

I love arguing about Harkins rifles.

 

[French Colonial]

I believe what I don't like now. I wouldn't have liked back then either. Which means what I like now, i'd have liked then. I have a soft spot in my heart for a Hawken.

You know what Popeye says..............I yam what I yam.

I do not believe in predestination, I believe a person is molded by their experiences and the decisions that they make.

If you were born in 1750 it would be hard to argue that you would have liked Hawken rifles

 

[Gum Slough Muzzleloader]

If it's available before the end of
January 2025, my Wife will buy for 60th Birthday Present.
Take Care Stay Safe

 

[user 34300]

But how long/hard wound you have to work for that $25.00?

About six weeks.............
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89071501472&seq=63Wages at the time for skilled work was around $1 per day.

Historical gold:
https://nma.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/historic_gold_prices_1833_pres.pdf
So a person would have to work around 20 days to buy one ounce of gold. The gold standard works out pretty good for comparison.

Today a person making $20 per hour grosses about $140 after with holding . 2000 / 140 = 15 Days. So, not far off from my original estimate.

Be very careful with government inflation figures. They changed how the CPI was calculated in 1980. The figures given today grossly underestimate inflation. They do this to keep people from understating what is happening to their savings.

https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
Oh yes, Hawken rifle prices? A couple months wages back then. That is a lot of money. A person could do well with a smoothbore for a lot less money.

 

[Kmcmichael]

I love arguing about Harkins rifles.

Big surprise!

I think it rather commendable that you can insult both Harkin fans and spelling NAZIS with a single thought.

 

[user 36911]

Big surprise!

I think it rather commendable that you can insult both Harkin fans and spelling NAZIS with a single thought.

I laugh at his posts, so he's offering humor too.

 

[Secesh]

What’s a Harkin fan?

 

[user 36911]

What’s a Harkin fan?

A childish insult.

 

[Kmcmichael]

A childish insult.

I politely disagree. I believe the insult to be well done. Being an avid enthusiast in any subject is going to open one up for such barbs.

 

[waksupi]

$25 in 1800 is equal to $610 today. I would have owned a Hawken back in the fur trade era.

https://www.officialdata.org/us/inf...alent,cumulative price increase of 2,342.77%.

Your inflation calculator doesn't tell the story. Here are average wages back in the day.

Historical statistics of the United States, colonial times to 1970. v.1.

$610 back then would have been 2+ years wages for a common laborer. How much is two years wages today?

 

[user 36911]

Your inflation calculator doesn't tell the story. Here are average wages back in the day.

Historical statistics of the United States, colonial times to 1970. v.1.

$610 back then would have been 2+ years wages for a common laborer. How much is two years wages today?

They took two years to make $25?

 

[user 36911]

I found one example. A blacksmith in the Army made $10 a month. $240 in two years.

 

[waksupi]

They took two years to make $25?

Go to page 181 on there, common labor was earning a buck a day.

 

[sturmkatze]

About six weeks.............
https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89071501472&seq=63Wages at the time for skilled work was around $1 per day.

Historical gold:
https://nma.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/historic_gold_prices_1833_pres.pdf
So a person would have to work around 20 days to buy one ounce of gold. The gold standard works out pretty good for comparison.

Today a person making $20 per hour grosses about $140 after with holding . 2000 / 140 = 15 Days. So, not far off from my original estimate.

Be very careful with government inflation figures. They changed how the CPI was calculated in 1980. The figures given today grossly underestimate inflation. They do this to keep people from understating what is happening to their savings.

https://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/inflation-charts
Oh yes, Hawken rifle prices? A couple months wages back then. That is a lot of money. A person could do well with a smoothbore for a lot less money.

Good sir, if ask wages for what job? Laborer? Farmer? Blacksmith? Typesetter? Rag picker? That’s a big variable too