Kibler's next gun?

[Terrier]

To the best of my knowledge the next kit will be an English Fowler. I'm pretty sure Jim said that in one of his recent videos. But I don't have the exact source.

Found it!


at 11:28 in.

 

[TDM]

Found it!


at 11:28 in.

Good deal!

 

[Kevin]

A sweet 16 is all I want. Jim Kibler rocks.

 

[64Springer]

Kibler oh Kibler I need me some fuuuuun.

So whip out yer tool'in an make me a guuuuuun.

Get busy a ship'in me muh new tooooooy.

Cuzz I wanna be me a Kibler fan booooooy.

I filed some an sanded she's com'in aloooooong.

Please don't be offended by my little soooooong.

 

[BadDaditood]

16 or 20…?
Damn, gotta have both
Now I need 2 jobs…

 

[Coinneach]

We're working on a fowler right now. This has been an ongoing project, but is really accelerating. It will be based on original English work from the 1760's or 1770's. It will be a gun intended for export, so from this standpoint it could be called a trade gun, but it won't represent the really low end trade guns we often think of. There was a whole class of English guns built for export that fit this profile. To most, they would look very much like what we think of as an "English Fowler", but there are differences between a high end English gun and these guns made for export.

Barrel breech is usually quite a bit smaller. Ours will be 1.125"
Barrels are often of an earlier 3-stage form. Two round sections and one octagon section.
There typically isn't a tip out or standing breech.
The barrels are typically pinned to the stock rather than using keys
Overall stocking is similar to a higher end English gun, but sometimes a little less refined
Sometimes earlier design forms are used (bulbous formed pipes, sheet metal serpentine sideplates etc.)
Overall level of sophistication and decoration is somewhat lower.

I expect this to be ready in 4-5 months as we are making some pretty rapid progress.

Thanks for all the interest! Any questions, just ask!

Jim

From Australia thanks for that Jim, some of us are looking forward to being able to source one of your Kits, and the FL Fowler fits the bill.

Please let us know when youre ready to accept orders and deposits.

 

[Kentuckyjed]

Kibler oh Kibler I need me some fuuuuun.

So whip out yer tool'in an make me a guuuuuun.

Get busy a ship'in me muh new tooooooy.

Cuzz I wanna be me a Kibler fan booooooy.

I filed some an sanded she's com'in aloooooong.

Please don't be offended by my little soooooong.

 

[Kentuckyjed]

Kibler oh Kibler I need me some fuuuuun.

So whip out yer tool'in an make me a guuuuuun.

Get busy a ship'in me muh new tooooooy.

Cuzz I wanna be me a Kibler fan booooooy.

I filed some an sanded she's com'in aloooooong.

Please don't be offended by my little soooooong.

Not offended a bit.

 

[BillyC]

From Australia thanks for that Jim, some of us are looking forward to being able to source one of your Kits, and the FL Fowler fits the bill.

Please let us know when youre ready to accept orders and deposits.

I don’t want to burst your bubble but my reading of his statement is that the Fowler would be based off of guns that were “originally made” to be exported to the states, not that he is making them “exportable” to Australia. His reference to similar to a trade gun has me thinking that. I could be wrong and for your sake hope I am.

 

[dwarvenchef]

I’m still hoping for a good Hawken style kit from Kibler, been saving my pennies since a podcast a couple of years ago.

 

[Coinneach]

I don’t want to burst your bubble but my reading of his statement is that the Fowler would be based off of guns that were “originally made” to be exported to the states, not that he is making them “exportable” to Australia. His reference to similar to a trade gun has me thinking that. I could be wrong and for your sake hope I am.

We'll see then.

 

[Graybeard2A]

I feel vindicated- thanks Jim
As for design and tweaking a new lock, my first Kiblers each had Chambers locks.
My second and third kits had Kibler locks- the SMR a Late Ketland while the Colonial has a larger older style round face.
The Colonial lock came shortly after the Colonial’s rollout- when they were hip-deep in new orders.
Not sure when the Late Ketland came out, but I would imagine before the Colonial launch.
A Smoothbore/ Fowler is next, which is what I heard before the Woodsrunner launch.
Someday a pistol of some sort-
Now I have to get a job to support my habit- thanks Jim!!!

Speaking of locks, do ya have a percussion lock in the works to change out from a flint?

 

[oreclan]

From the sound of some of these comments it seems Kibler might be struggling as a business.

Not at all!
I was there a week-a-go on Friday to pick up my cherry stocked .54 cal. Woodsrunner, a Colonial smooth bore barrel and new buttplate, and some Permalyn.
Things were humming. I met Bree, a new employee, Jason and Jim himself. They were all very helpful and informative.
Looks like they are producing as fast as possible to keep up with orders.
I was not able to take home the smooth bore barrel as they were manufacturing them.

 

[oreclan]

Good fact, God only made a few of us perfect, the rest he made right-handed. And never forget the left hook to the jaw, most people never see it coming.

I had a few bloody noses from boxing a lefty at school, I can tell yeh!

 

[2 shots]

a flintlock m134

 

[vintovka]

Now in my 4th quarter the only one i would be interested in would be a nice large bore Jaeger that is not too heavy.

 

[Coinneach]

I’m still hoping for a good Hawken style kit from Kibler, been saving my pennies since a podcast a couple of years ago.

Thats what its all about isnt it, just squirreling what money we can over time for that dream opportunity in finally getting that special one Gun.

 

[Zutt-man]

We'll see then.

You may want to contact Jim in regards to this. I seem to remember a previous active member on this forum who had quarrels with his international policy. If I remember correctly, Australia requires barrels to have a traceable serial number on the barrel and this was something Jim couldn’t provide. Things may have changed since then or I may be misquoting, but I’d be safe and contact him directly.

 

[TDM]

Well just think about what Jim has produced in the last 10 years. Now that he has a proven game plan there’s no telling what he’ll turn out in the next 10 years. Hope to stick around to see it.

 

[Cubreac]

Looking forward to the promised English Fowler.