L & R lock installed in my GPR

[Ballshooter]

It went in pretty easy, I took my time and went slow I used a candle to see where I needed to trim. It also lines up very good torch hole is maybe a tad forward but I am happy with it. I may move the barrel back a little but unsure if it's necessary.

 

[Grenadier1758]

Try shooting your rifle. Is the touch hole 1/16"? A little forward of the center of the pan shouldn't be a problem.

 

[Ballshooter]

Is the touch hole 1/16"? A little forward of the center of the pan shouldn't be a problem.

It is a RMC liner I believe it's close to 1/16th

 

[Eric Krewson]

Nice to see the fit went well, I put one in a TC and it was the exact opposite. Your touch hole isn't that far off, it wouldn't take much barrel movement to center it perfectly, I had to move the TC barrel back 1/4" to line up the touch hole.

Looks like it is time for lock polishing now to get rid of the orange peal finish.

Here is how the one I did came out after the polishing.

I used an old TC stock that I refinished, a NOS unfired .54 TC kit barrel and the L&R RPL lock, a friend saw the finished gun and had to have it, it has never been fired to
this day. I told my friend that these things had appreciated in value lately, I was really feeling him out to see if he might sell it back to me but he said he was really proud to own some of my work and planned to keep it forever.

 

[Ballshooter]

Yeah I think I will semi polish it with a scotch pad and cold blue then rub back to gray. I am going to push the barrel back just a tad as well.

 

[EC121]

It is fine as it is. If I was in a tinkering mood, I would just flare/countersink back edge of the hex part to catch more flame. That wouldn't change anything for the vent. It would just change the shape of the outside cone.

 

[excess650]

Rather than move the barrel, I would be more inclined to widen the inside of the pan towards the muzzle. Yours may have no ignition problems as-is, so shoot it first.

 

[springfield art]

Nice to see the fit went well, I put one in a TC and it was the exact opposite. Your touch hole isn't that far off, it wouldn't take much barrel movement to center it perfectly, I had to move the TC barrel back 1/4" to line up the touch hole.

Looks like it is time for lock polishing now to get rid of the orange peal finish.

Here is how the one I did came out after the polishing.
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I used an old TC stock that I refinished, a NOS unfired .54 TC kit barrel and the L&R RPL lock, a friend saw the finished gun and had to have it, it has never been fired to
this day. I told my friend that these things had appreciated in value lately, I was really feeling him out to see if he might sell it back to me but he said he was really proud to own some of my work and planned to keep it forever.

Great photo. I hope you get the thing back! Good luck!

 

[mmb617]

I was having trouble getting decent ignition with my Traditions Hawken rifle, and decided a lock upgrade was in order. I got the L&R lock for it and was disappointed to find it was no better. I dedicated a range day to experimentation vowing to get to the root of the problem. And I think I did, as my last 13 shots all went off without any misfires.

I did read the manual that came with my lock and saw the recommendation that the flint be set so that at half-**** it was about 1/4 inch from the frizzen. I thought that sounded really far away as my Traditions locks like the flint almost touching the frizzen at half-****. But as it turned out this particular lock likes the flint even farther away, probably closer to 3/8 inch gap. Once I had it set like that ignition became reliable.

It's funny how you have to find out what a particular gun likes. I also found that the Hawken doesn't really like a 2f main charge, it prefers 3f, but my Deerhunter in the same caliber will eat 2f or 3f with no preference.

It's all good though. The more we have to putz around to find out what works best the better it feels when we do find the magic combination.

 

[springfield art]

I was having trouble getting decent ignition with my Traditions Hawken rifle, and decided a lock upgrade was in order. I got the L&R lock for it and was disappointed to find it was no better. I dedicated a range day to experimentation vowing to get to the root of the problem. And I think I did, as my last 13 shots all went off without any misfires.

I did read the manual that came with my lock and saw the recommendation that the flint be set so that at half-**** it was about 1/4 inch from the frizzen. I thought that sounded really far away as my Traditions locks like the flint almost touching the frizzen at half-****. But as it turned out this particular lock likes the flint even farther away, probably closer to 3/8 inch gap. Once I had it set like that ignition became reliable.

It's funny how you have to find out what a particular gun likes. I also found that the Hawken doesn't really like a 2f main charge, it prefers 3f, but my Deerhunter in the same caliber will eat 2f or 3f with no preference.

It's all good though. The more we have to putz around to find out what works best the better it feels when we do find the magic combination.

You're right. Muzzleloading is sometimes as much art as science!

 

[Steve Martin]

excess650 told you the best thing to do. I have done the exact same installation on a GPR that I used to own. I simply widened the pan a bit and I never had any issue with ignition at all. In fact it was such a good, quick shooter a friend of mine wanted it and made me an offer I could not turn down.

 

[hanshi]

Unless you simply prefer to tinker with the rifle I see no need to do anything with it other than maybe do as excess650 suggested.

 

[Ballshooter]

I will shoot it first then decide if moving the barrel back or widen the pan a tad. It is so close I doubt it will have any trouble.

 

[Ballshooter]

It shot really well as is, seem to have no delay. So I will continue on really like the upgrade pan seals the powder nice. Main trigger is a touch heavy with no cheap but very usable for hunting. Set trigger is much improved.

 

[TreeMan]

I have a rifle with the touch hole way more out of line of the Pan than yours. It shoots just fine and is not any slower than other flintlocks I have.