like to identify an percussion shotgun made in jodhpur india

[SPQR70AD]

it is a 12 gauge double barrel shotgun. the markings on it are
Year 1973 New light Artworks Jodhpur
not nitro---89 gr (BP my add) 1 1/4 oz
English material superior quality ML gun
the gun is in real good shape shot skeet with it hand thrown) broke 20 in a row. just like to know if any body heard of it or has any info on it

 

[Semisane]

I have one. Really nice double of excellent quality. I don't have any more info than what's marked on the barrel. See mine here.

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/ill-bet-you-havent-seen-one-of-these-before.110229/

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/grins-and-giggles-with-two-barrels-and-big-balls.110354/

 

[SPQR70AD]

I have one. Really nice double of excellent quality. I don't have any more info than what's marked on the barrel. See mine here.

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/ill-bet-you-havent-seen-one-of-these-before.110229/

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/grins-and-giggles-with-two-barrels-and-big-balls.110354/

when I googled the shotgun I saw your post of it on American long rifles forum. I used it as a shotgun where I put the powder in then got a plastic shot wad for reloading filled it with shot rammed it down then took another plastic wad cut off the flaps and rammed it home to keep the shot from rolling out. it worked great I broke 20 hand thrown skeet in a row. then I ordered the 1 ounce 12 gauge Lee mold for a slug which has a drive key cast some but have not fired it yet not really having much faith in a smoothbore firing projectiles. I am now thinking of trying it with the slugs

 

[springfield art]

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Year 1973 New light Artworks Jodhpur
not nitro---89 gr (BP my add) 1 1/4 oz
English material superior quality ML gun
the gun is in real good shape shot skeet with it hand thrown) broke 20 in a row. just like to know if any body heard of it or has any info on it
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Pretty cool shotgun! Thanks for posting. I've never heard of one either; wish I'd been more attentive back in the '70's when Green River, etc., were in business.

 

[SPQR70AD]

Pretty cool shotgun! Thanks for posting. I've never heard of one either; wish I'd been more attentive back in the '70's when Green River, etc., were in business.

thanks for looking

 

[Lonegun1894]

I have one too. I've heard a lot of people talking a lot of trash about any gun made in India, but my experience is limited to this one gun, and I personally really like it. It does well with birdshot, #4 buckshot, 00 buckshot, and .690" PRB. So I'm a fan, but don't be surprised if some look down on it.

 

[mark/wi]

I use to have one, and I agree with Lonegun 1894. It was a very good gun. Mark

 

[snubnose57]

I have one also, I think it is a real quality shotgun. Only bad thing is it is a little heavy for walking in the woods all day.

 

[Rudyard]

These double guns where exported but also served the Indian market since in the 70s more muzzle loaders where on offer than Breach loaders the liscence was seemingly easier to get and the versatility of the ML was in its favour plus cartridges ran 3 R/- each if local produce , up to 8 R/- (Rupees) for Eley Kynock imported . The latter preffered if bought to repel Dacoits (Bandits) or Large game loaded with LG large grape most every gun shop had a sign showing bled to death Tigers & offering Eley Cartridges & Webley & Scott or Greeners .Though few actually had these imports . The only two brands of India made shotguns I recall was ' Meetab ' & 'Rualex ' The best of rifled offering was got up ex Lee Enfields sporterized by the Indian ordnance factories taken out to 318 WR Exelerated Express (Since no Gov't calibers could be sold privately ). They where pretty tacky but high demand items . The worst rifles I saw where hideously got up obsoleates like 71 88 Mausers bushed to take the 318 with the muzzle swaged down to a ' Paradox' like hope Also hoping the customer didn't notice the welded up saw cuts along the barrel . I remarked" Surely these would be unsafe ?" They replied "Indian Cartridges not so strong !" However I've rather strayed from the ML topic . I never considered the modern BLs I was after old UK ones.
The India market doubles where about 8 pounds but that was 1970s I took out a English double shotgun ex flintlock side plug conversion thinking they could make me doubles as flint or caplock offerings .but the Red tape got it siezed in Bombay airport but I recovered it going out via Palum . Some minion had hauled me up to the big chief over my antigues but he was the same high up who Ide dealt with coming in he had a brother worked in Chesterfield . We'de got on before so he tells the oik not to worry and I got away with it .' Indistan See the fun! ' as they put it ." Youth was cheap wherefore we sold it"' ," Gold was good we'd hoped to hold it .And today we know the fullness of our gains " From Kipling's ' Christmas in India' seems fitting .Rudyard

 

[Da Ba]

I have one too. I've heard a lot of people talking a lot of trash about any gun made in India, but my experience is limited to this one gun, and I personally really like it. It does well with birdshot, #4 buckshot, 00 buckshot, and .690" PRB. So I'm a fan, but don't be surprised if some look down on it.

It's great to hear you had a positive experience with your gun. Personal experiences often differ from popular opinion. Glad to know it performs well with various types of ammunition! sso login

 

[Rudyard]

It's great to hear you had a positive experience with your gun. Personal experiences often differ from popular opinion. Glad to know it performs well with various types of ammunition! sso login

I was about to write a bit about Indian Home production.but see ide written heaps earlier We they did export and these would have stood Indian Proof houses with a three headed Ashoka (Like Lions) mark along with any loads stuff . I never looked hard . I remember one shop in Bombay offered gun with" BEST Australian Tubeing " Ime not mocking . Even the home market had safe guns and any exported would be the same I was once in the gunroom of a late English Duke who I had business with . His keeper showed me the gunroom and on a rack sat an Indian copy of a ' Mutiny Enfield ' he did a bit of reenacting it seems (Never met him)a Keeper was allway's a trusted servant a confidant he had no need with the formal stuff . Except on big shoot days . the ' Mutiny Enfield 'was still a popular gun for village India easier to get the license & more versatile to shoot Ive' got up 'lots of the despised (by Some )Indian flint muskets made them 'fire risks 'Ive been chased after by US Reenactors to get them every one passed UK Proof house test My own US reenactment musket was got up three different broken rejects .Did me for years doing US Events & R vous .
Rudyards take on Indian guns
Bit repetitive but so are the Indian gun knockers !