lyman or pedersoli??

[smokepole tc]

Would like your opinions a 54 cal great plains or pedersoli 54 at cabelas for 549.00 gun would be flintlock. Thanks

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I would opt for the Lyman, in a kit, in .54 flint. I prefer the slower 1:60 twist for patched round ball found in the Lyman, while the Pedersoli is a 1:48. I would also prefer to do my own staining and finishing, and I prefer browned steel or steel left untreated to develope its own patina to the blue from Pedersoli. I also don't like the adjustable sights found on the Pedersoli, though to be fair, you could swap out any sight for an after market version. The Lyman kit used to come with both adjustable and fixed, rear, iron sights from the factory..., your option which one to install. To get the most out of the barrel accuracy for either rifle, (imho) you will need to swap out the thick, steel, front sight post for something thin. I prefer thin, silver.

LD

 

[nwtradegun]

the lymans gpr hands down. get it as a complete gun. the kit is a bear to put together unlass u r
a mater of several trades.the cost difference is not worth it.

 

[Black Jack]

the lymans gpr hands down. get it as a complete gun. the kit is a bear to put together unlass u r
a mater of several trades.the cost difference is not worth it.

What he said. You will not save money with the kit and you'll wind up with a gun showing better workmanship. The GPR is a great gun.

 

[FishDFly]

"Would like your opinions a 54 cal great plains or pedersoli 54 at cabelas for 549.00 gun would be flintlock. Thanks"

With the recent complaints of Lyman GPR's in the last 18 months on this board about poor quality, I would not buy a Lyman GPR without an "in hand" physical inspection of the rifle.

I own more Pedersoli products than Lyman for a reason.

 

[Alden]

Which Pedersoli? Oh, wait, it doesn't really matter. The Pedersoli!

 

[FishDFly]

Yep, given a choice, it's not Lyman, no matter which choice of manufacturers, it's not a Lyman.

 

[galamb]

Ford or Chevy?

At this price point they look fairly equal. Pedersoli's premiere line is definitely a finely crafted piece.

Time will tell whether their (price conscious) line being sold at places like Cabela's will more resemble their better rifles or will simply be on par with Lyman's recent offerings.

At about half the price of a typical Pedersoli you do have to wonder how/where they kept the price down.

 

[BrownBear]

I own both Lymans and Peds and see one "practical" difference. The hooked breech on the Lyman barrel lets you drop it out of the stock for easy cleaning. A little further around the block for cleaning a Ped. No big nevermind, but it's a factor. I prefer removing barrels for cleaning and always feel a little put upon with Peds.

 

[Black Jack]

To be clear, I believe the OP is referring to the Pedersoli Cabela's "Hawken", which has a removable barrel....it's the Pedersoli replacement for the same model previously made by Investarms. I have no doubt it is a fine, serviceable rifle, but it is the most "bargain basement" of their models. As someone who owns a couple of each brands, I assure you they are both quality items. Pedersoli does have the reputation of offering very high quality, high priced models, some of which are used by accomplished match shooters, but this is not one of them. The Lyman is just as good and offers the advantage of more authentically traditional styling that will "fit in" better and be better suited, at local club target shoots, rendezvous, and the like if you ever get involved in those activities. For just hunting critters, either will suffice, and the Pedersoli is a little lighter to carry around. You have to understand that some posters personal preferences and biases carry through in very strong opinions and its sometimes hard to get a completely objective opinion.

 

[Rusty_Nail]

With all the talk about quality in recent Lyman products, and a recent factory Deerstalker I saw, I too would say Pedersoli.

That being said, it all comes down to which type you want really.

I assume the 54 you mention is the Pedersoli Frontier? Or the new Traditional Hawken?

Frontier- 7-1/4 lbs., 55" OAL, 1:65 twist for PRB, Euro walnut and brass. And is a Hatfield reproduction.

Hawken- 6-1/2 lbs., 44-5/16" OAL, 1:48 twist made for PRB and Cnicals, walnut and brass.

The GPR is 9 lb., 50", 1:60 twist for PRB, all dark wood and metal.

So do you want darker overall, or a little brass bling? Sleek or Beefy? Long or short? With this price, and these three different shooters, it is all about what you want!

 

[sleeperNY]

The pedersoli 54 at cabelas for 549.00 is made by Investarms. Cabelas has sold them under there name for many years.

 

[larry wv]

If it's the Pedersoli Frontier I would pick it. If not I have no opinion. Larry

 

[Rusty_Nail]

There is now a Cabelas Traditional Hawken, that is made by Pedersoli. Saw a 50 cal. flint version last week @ Cabelas in Hamburg, Pa.

It is a Pedersoli Country Hunter hardware with a Hawken style stock. And the Kentucky lock.
Cabelas Pedersoli Traditional Hawken

 

[Rusty_Nail]

double post, sorry.

 

[sleeperNY]

Rusty_Nail, You are right,it is slightly different looking. I saw the cap box and was going by that only. Thanks for making me look a little closer.

Jim

 

[Kapow]

If it is the one advertised on Cabelas as the Pedersoli Traditional Flintlock Hawken I would choose the Lyman hands down. As stated inspect it if you can but it is simply a better rifle than the Cabelas. Another factor to consider is the spare barrels available for the Lyman. They are a well proven firearm and great value for money.

 

[Alden]

My answer too was predicated on the AWFUL reviews and customer support Lyman's products have been getting for some time. I wish the GPR were still the stalwart it once was -- but it is not. I understand people wanting it to be as it once was. I want my country back too. So!?

Would still like to know which Pedersoli we're talking about not that, again, it should, would, matter these days...

 

[stinkyfeet]

I have had nothing but bad luck with Lyman kit rifles, the past year plus. As for the finished rifles i dont know, inspect them with a fine tooth comb, expect if anything goes wrong Lyman will give ya poor customer service these days. (Your better off finding a used 5 year old Lyman GPR than a new one IMHO) I do like the Pedersoli rifles and had very good results with everyone I have owned and shot. I personally would buy the Cabelas blue ridge flintlock rifle myself, its the same gun as the Pedersoli Frontier and the new ones only have the Pedersoli name on the gun. Its sparks very well, fast ignition, and very accurate amd only 100 dollars more. Whats better its a longer more slender rifle than the heavier hawkens style unless thats what ya want.

 

[Mr. S]

My wife surprised me with a GPR in .54 flint a little over a month ago for an early birthday present. I'm very happy with it! It shoots better than I can and seem pretty well put together. She got it from Midsouth. It's a factory built rifle not a kit. I have no experience with Perdersoli.

Rick