I've been making another patch box for the Hawken I have planned for this summer. I've made 5 and I am creeping up on the final one using a jewelers saw. Now, I came across this native guy in some third world civilization squatting on a dirt floor hammering out a brass frame patchbox using an old sledge hammer for a anvil and chisels maybe made out of who knows what kind of metal. Amazing - I am humbled