milken the mooseky

[buckknife]

I belive murphys oil soap an plain old water makes a decent moose milk.Mixed it half an half with the blue an white ticklen from wally world.36 cal with 20gr of goex 3f.Did just about as good as any other stuff.The first shot on a clean barrel was about as good as the rest.Was only shooten 25 yards an fighten a unsteady wind,dint help matters much.Was good enough fer a small game load at that range an loaded real sweet with no cleaning between shots.Patches looked like they had almost not even been shot,pretty darn clean,but 20 grains aint much powder.It loaded so darn easy every shot i think it could be cut to 1part oil soap to 2 parts water maybe.Keeps a pruty darn clean barrel that has no fouling left in the breech at all that i could feel.
we add other oils to the moose milk but do we need to?The murphys is a pure vegtable soap that is soluable with water,an we all know how well water cleans.So you have the lube,murphys an the cleaner,water.Will it cause rust when left in the bore for a spell?Dont know.
Im gonna try it with a little less oil next time,but looks good so far an wont burn when you put a flame to the soaked patch. ::

 

[gasbomb]

Instead of murpheys try this.


Chevron Soluble Oil B
Chevron Soluble Oil B is an emulsifying oil that readily mixes with soft or hard water in ratios as dilute as 100 parts water to one of oil. The oil forms homogeneous and exceptionally stable emulsions, which show no apparent separation after long periods of use or storage. It will prevent corrosion of both ferrous and nonferrous machined metal parts. Work pieces machined with Chevron Soluble Oil B emulsions ordinarily need no further corrosion protection during subsequent handling or manufacturing processes because the thin film protects for a suitable period. The oil contains an effective biocide that combats bacterial growth, rancidity and odor in machine sumps.

I use it in a 1:10 ratio. Lots better than veggy oil. you can find it at your local oil jobber. You can get it in a 5 gallon pail for around 30 bucks. LIFETIME SUPPLY!! or sell it in small bottles for five bucks at rondvues

 

oh sure Bucky,,,(ya know I'm just teasin),,experiment away to your hearts desire,,but ya know the truth. I've learned to change a whole bunch too. But it all boils down to them secret papers don't it? That same think, that same style?dare I say, same school?. best of heart to ya man,john,,,,

 

[buckknife]

Have never tryed that brand of wso but do have the nappa wso.The murphys an water seems to leave the bore very clean.Didnt do bad in Stumpkillers test either.Have shot it cut with alkey an belive plain old water works better.
The murphys is really sum slick stuff.There was no build up in the breech at all in around 30 shots that i could feel on loading.I was using very thick patch material and it loaded with one long contiues stroke.The patches recovered showed hardley any sign of even being shot.
I have a number of moose milk potioins made and they all give decent accuracy but most all of em have sum murphys in the brew.Im taken the kiss aproach.It will shot as good as the rest right now.With the right amount of lube cut back a little it may out do them.Looks good so far. :results:

 

[buckknife]

Tacks i did try sum of supperflints cat whiz in the 54 here a while back,an no it isnt as accurate as the school but it were good enough.Keep all of em the 3 inch dot at 50 yards with the same patch material i used in the 36.Was no swaben going on,no pile of dirty cleanen patches an it were darn right fun.Any more good enough works alright.I will only be taken 1 deer with the 54,most of em will be shot with my remington 1100 smooth bore slug gun.What kind of groups do you figuare im getten with it :crackup:At 50 yards it will put 5 brenekey slugs in a 5 ich circle off hand,thats good enough for the range im hunten.Sumtimes good enough is enough :what: :m2c:Im growing weary of trying to get an keep pin point accuracy.The 36 wont be shot at over 25 to 30 yards,the 54 will wont be shot at over 50 to 60.Them are my comfertable ranges with those guns an i wont shoot out of them ranges.So pin point accuracy really aint needed,just a steady aim will do.
If i were going to shoot fer compation it would be the school,but i aint.So schools out an class dissmised.I just want to have sum fun.
Take care old freind :thumbsup:

 

[buckknife]

Did 4parts water an 1 part murphys oil soap a bit ago.This is one slick lube.No swaben an no fouling in the breech.Still holden its own. :hmm:Next time im cutten it 8 to 1.It lubes an loads so easy i think it can be cut this much maybe.Its the slickest moose milk ive tryed yet an shoots good.Gota mow the yard right now,the monshoones have stoped fer a spell an my grass looks like a jungle. ::

 

[buckknife]

Update on my moose milk adventures,if anyone gives a rats a**.Murphys and water at 8 to 1 made the group open up.Maybe not innuf lube or geten close to plain water.
Had some moose milk formula i got off someone else that did shoot very well indeed.Gonna use it this weekend on the squirrel season opeaner.
13oz water
3oz nappa oil
1oz murphys oil soap :thumbsup:

 

[Stumpkiller]

. . . if anyone gives a rats a**.

I'se listenin!

 

[buckknife]

 

[Herb]

Buckknife, I like your inquiring mind and your experimenting. I tested your ideas a couple of days ago, Col. Yell's, too. My rifle is a .40 cal 1/66 twist 38" L.C. Rice barrel, Dickert flint, Jacob Wigle (Westmoreland Co., PA) copy I made. Testing Water Soluble Oil, got it in 1998 from a machine shop, probably it is Chevron, I cut the .012 crush mike old pillow ticking at the muzzle, and wiped once with a water damp patch after every shot. Used 40 gr of Goex 3F and a .390 cast ball. 6 water to 1 WSO (dry patch) gave 1741 fps avg for 6 shots with 40 fps velocity spread (E) and a 2" group at 50 yards rest. That was so hard to load that I managed only one shot of 7-1, then gave up. Went back to these patches later, pre-cut them 1" round, but dampened the patch with rubbing alcohol at loading and did not wipe at all, even between groups. 5-1 gave 1753/27, five shots in 1.2". Had no 6-1 left, but 7-1 went 1763/40/ five in 1.2", but four of them in 3/8" on centers. Tried the dry patch-cut at muzzle-wipe after every shot in my 42" Bedford caplock, best was 8-1 for 1792/75/ six shots in 0.8". No trouble loading. Went back to my Wigle, used same load and patch with NO LUBE, except dampened it with alcohol at loading. No wiping. Six shots gave 1751/77/1.4". Then used precut patches which were cut from strips of PT after lubing with Murphy Oil Soap in water and dried. Dampened with alcohol at loading. 8-1 gave 1777/58/1.8" (all six-shot groups at 50 yds, rest). 7-1 gave 1766/32/1.1". 6-1 gave 1782/61/1.7". 5-1 gave 1788/38/1.8". All loaded easily. All 30 shots when plotted on one target had a 2.25" spread, 24 in 1.6". So my rifles like about 7 or 8 to 1, either WSO or MOS, dry patches precut and dampened with alcohol at loading. Next I'll go back and test the WSO at 6,7 and 8 to 1. Col.: how do you load 10-1? Do you use wet patches and wipe after every shot?

 

[buckknife]

Herb thats sum heavy duty experymenten there.Ive been using the mose milk potions wet.I soak a strip of the blue an white pillow ticklen that i got at wall mart.Run it between my 2 fingers twice to get the excess juice off.Then i cut it into oversize square patches.Put in a airtight tin.Cut the patch at the muzzle an ram it home.Every shot loads the same as the rest.No swaben.Im only shooten 20gr of 3f in the 36,im not sure if its barely enough to fill the patten breech on it.I did try some clp on a 15 patch here a while back the same way with no swabben just fer kicks.by the 3rd shot it loaded very hard.The moose milk keeps the fouling real soft and loaden that 25 patch that crushes to 15 would be impossable to load in the 36 using the dry patch method,but with moose milk it slides right down the tube after i get it started,which dont take much either.its some darn good patch material,tight weave an thick.All the moose milk ive tryed out gives respectable groups with this patch material,even my murphys brew i was tinkering with.I was really looking fer a moose milk that was pretty much water solable in all the ingredants.Seems the nappa oil and the murphys together is just the ticket an shoots darn good and loads like a breeze.Besides i have 2 pints of it i have to do sumin with.I have enough milk brews around here now im starten to feel like a dairy farmer :haha:

 

Bucky say's he don't compete,,and good enough is good enough. and that's ok.
I'm goin fer bear tommorrow.(won't be back till next week) but,,, I don't need ta fret about good enough, I know where my gun shoots.. I can load and snuff candles after dark @ 15yrds,,I can hit a 1" X at 25,,and I can put as many rounds as ya wanna shoot in a 2 1/14 " circle at 50 "off hand",most all day,,and all that ain't got nuthin todo with MOS or MAP or other lube type "myricals" it's just plain shootin with consistancy, and learning your own firearm.

My point is, I won't worry about the physics of my firearm whilst I'm hunting. Firearm prophichancey is easy. I have confidence in my firearm,,,now i can think about the other parts of the 'hunt,,,,,

Wanna know what I have a hard tyme with? The pressure of hittin the "bullseye" in competition! and you guy's know that!! How many tymes do I gotta say I got "Bullseye" fever!??

 

prophichancey ??? :huh:

 

[buckknife]

Wont be a bullseye on that bear :blah: :crackup:Just funen ya.Good luck to ya on your bar hunt ::

 

[buckknife]

well i must have my firearm proficency down,came home with 5 bushy tails today. :crackup:the 36 did the trick with the mossemilk. :thumbsup:

 

[buckknife]

Col.Archibald Yel i tried the 10 to 1 moose milk with the nappa 765-1526 cutting oil,dont have any of the chevron but i belive you have a good mix.Loaded easy,an shot the center bull out of the target at 25 with the 36.
I just steped out the back door an shot a strip,7 shots was all,the first was a inch high on a clean unfouled barrel,the rest were right on the mark.
i thought maybe 10 to 1 would be a little light on lube but i beleive its just about perfect now.Be some darn cheap lube an shoots darn good.
thankyou :master: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: