Dark Skies
32 Cal
'appen as maybe, but I don't think the constitution covers being careless and irresponsible with firearms on airlines. When you're on someone else's property it's their rules or the highway.
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Muzzleloader Confiscated at Mass. Airport
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alcessapiens
40 Cal
I’d expect so, it didn’t say he was charged with anything so the state police will hold it and he can probably just go sign for it. I wonder if it had been centerfire would he have been charged?
Probably !
Get real,
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Mass. is one of those 'Deep Blue' states that I soke of in a reply on this forum. They did or still do despise all guns and gun owners. Passed through there years ago. Blew out a tire and limped into a rest area. It was raining 'hard' so I decided to wait for the rain to stop to change my tire. Was only there a few minutes when the Mass. State Police came through. They wanted to know what I was doing. Pointed to my tire. ;Why haven't you changed it they asked?' It was then, there in the rain, they made me unload my car so they could check for contraband. Whatever that was. They found my BP revolver, unloaded, and went bat crap crazy. Arrest and jail were mentioned several times, though I hadn't done anything but have a 'gun' in my car. Since the revolver was unloaded, they made me lock it in my trunk, instead of taking it, or arresting me. I still think that they only reason they harassed me was because I had Kentucky tags on my car. Been almost 40 years and haven't been to Mass, since, though I've been through that area several times.
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Way back before 911, a friend flew to England for business and to give a talk involving Civil War bullets; he had some original lead musket balls, no cartridge or powder and did manage to get thru. But now, I bet even if you had foam or plastic fake minie balls, they'd' have a cow'.
The 71 yr old gentleman goes on my list of carryon luggage size rule abusers. Airlines tolerate rule breakers like this but the rest of the passengers suffer when abusers wrestle their oversize carryon in and out, holding up the whole airplane or forcing passengers to gate check small carryon when no overhead bin space is available. TSA (not the state police) is supposed to confiscate and destroy all disallowed carryon items. They cannot accept them as gifts. It would have been a hard lesson learned for this gentleman to have his prized ML cut up as his reward for pushing the envelope and bad judgement.
It said it was in checked baggage, not carry on.
Even checked baggage goes through screening the same as carry on..
And he may have been thinking it was okay for a muzzle loader since they aren’t considered a firearm.. and do not require the NICS check when purchasing. (Trying to give home the benefit of doubt)
And since the stat police didn’t charge him, it was probably something along that line..
I’m sure if he would’ve had some powder in that bag as well, there would have been problems. You can’t take explosives on commercial planes..
I wonder what the conversation with the state patrol was….
Even checked baggage goes through screening the same as carry on..
And he may have been thinking it was okay for a muzzle loader since they aren’t considered a firearm.. and do not require the NICS check when purchasing. (Trying to give home the benefit of doubt)
And since the stat police didn’t charge him, it was probably something along that line..
I’m sure if he would’ve had some powder in that bag as well, there would have been problems. You can’t take explosives on commercial planes..
I wonder what the conversation with the state patrol was….
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Uncle Miltie
50 Cal.
Really stupid thing to do, no excuse for it. Might be more to the story.....
I flown from many different airports with revolvers' and pistol always decleared them with out a problem
alcessapiens
40 Cal
That’s called “doing it right “.
You're absolutely right, under Federal Law and the laws of many states it is an antique firearm and antique firearms are not firearms. As they tell us, ignorance of the law is no excuse.
But they have guns and badges and will use them and there's not enough of us who are willing to stand up to the soft tyranny and educate them.
That’s per ATF. Remember that each agency apparently has their own definition. The WH, for instance, defines a rock as “Fully semi-automatic, 100 magazine-clipped, assault rifle”.
It’s been that way for well over 50 years. Duh.
alcessapiens
40 Cal
You forgot “Machine gun of doom”That’s per ATF. Remember that each agency apparently has their own definition. The WH, for instance, defines a rock as “Fully semi-automatic, 100 magazine-clipped, assault rifle”.
bronko220002
45 Cal.
Now, now...back in the 1700s that was an assault rifle!!!!!!!!!!!
alcessapiens
40 Cal
Well, you aren’t riding a horse, listening to Amos and Andy on a tube radio, ordering from a mail order catalog. Why? Because the world has moved on. They don’t hate you it’s just the 21st century. You can accommodate to change or complain, only one of those things will do you any good.
alcessapiens
40 Cal
Is that the same NRA that bans guns from it’s headquarters? They have their rules in their place same as airlines.
My oversight. OP says checked.
Just short of 20 years ago was checking my declared revolver to leave Mpls./St. Paul for Alaska. The ammunition was in the cartridge belt loops and they weren’t going to allow it because “that’s loose ammunition”. After a 45 minute conversation/argument between the guy, his supervisor and me they decided “oh, I guess it’s okay”. I had told them to point out in the rule book (which they had) anything to support their argument.
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