need advice on trade offer

[Bo dunlap]

I listed a Ruger number 1b Pre warning in 25-06 for trade for a flint lock long rifle on a local site.

I've been offered a trade for a Senica and Patriot pistol both in 45. I've not seen pics yet but everything else this guy has listed has been in like new condition.

I know little about the patriot and even less about THE SENICA .

I put a value of 1100 on my number 1 package.

Do you feel the value would be close to equal ?

I have a 54 renegade and a 50 great plains both cap locks And was hoping for a flinter but I can Waite a while longer if this is a good trade.

Thanks for any advice.

 

[Zonie]

Do you feel the value would be close to equal ?

No. Not even close.

A well made, used, custom longrifle would be close.

 

[bubba.50]

if the Seneca & Patriot are in excellent condition I would put the combined value at around $700.00 or so.

my opinion & yer welcome to it.

 

[Patocazador]

Both the Seneca and Patriot are fine guns (and very similar) but unless your heart is yearning for them, I'd hold off for your original desire, a flintlock. A used flinter from a quality custom maker would be about right for a trade.
I have a Ruger #1 with gorgeous wood in .257 Roberts and I wouldn't even consider trading for the Seneca and Patriot unless $500-$600 cash was thrown in. (And I would like to have a nice Seneca in .36 cal.)

 

[Bo dunlap]

Thanks guys . that's what I needed to know. I'm really wanting to try flint locks so I'll keep looking.

 

[bpd303]

Excellent advice received and a good decision.

 

[Ken Cormier]

Yea good advice. Not worth the trade

 

[George T.]

I am pleased that no one turned up their nose on the value of a modern firearm. I also agree that with their assessment of the trade.

At times you can find a good flintlock that someone is not using pretty darned reasonable. Few shooters can not tell of a firearm traded away way to cheap.

Geo. T.

 

[nwtradegun]

I would not even consider a production gun in trade for a no. 1 ruger unless it was a hi dollar pedrsoli copy.you should first consider semi custom guns

 

[don hepler]

Real nice Seneca's are 500.-550. around here and real nice Patriot's 400.-500. That is if they are like new condition. A 36 Seneca will sell higher than a 45 around here.

 

[Bo dunlap]

I just looked at The Gun Works web page. They have two Senecas in 45 one for 550 and the other with nickel silver mounting for 650. They have one Patriot listed at 495. They seem to go for top dollar around here.

 

[Patocazador]

I bought my .45 Patriot in like new condition for $350.
I don't have a Seneca in .36 because I'm not going to pay $550 for one. Eventually, I'll find one for $450 or less.

 

[Bo dunlap]

What is it about the Seneca that everyone loves ? Its got to more than just its light weight.

 

[MarTay6]

Perhaps what everyone loves about a T/C Seneca (if that is indeed true)- is that it's a T/C- and it's not a T/C Hawken! (btw, I bought a NIB T/C Patriot last month for $275!)
Wes

 

[Bo dunlap]

Good find on the Patriot .

 

[Wes/Tex]

What is it about the Seneca that everyone loves ? Its got to more than just its light weight.

The Cherokee and Seneca were, and still are, one of the few commercial .32 and .36 caliber guns available at the time and the only ones I know of with fast twist barrels to stabilize those small balls at lower speed. The 1-30" twist flew in the face of then current thinking about twist rate. Somebody realized that with those faster twist rates, powder charges as low as 10 grains in the .32 and 15 grains FFFg in those guns gave .22LR velocity with acceptable accuracy for small critters. With fairly shallow rifling they did well with the Maxiballs in those calibers to up the shooter's ability to take larger predators as well. Not 100% sure but I believe that the .45 in the Seneca had the 1-48" twist as did the larger Hawken model. Their light weight, shorter overall length and rifling twist made them ideal plinkers and small game getters.

 

[MacRob46]

Not a good trade. The Ruger, the B model has beem discontinued, is worth a great deal more than the two T/Cs. The only way I would consider it, if it were mine, would be the guns and a LOT OF Cash!

 

[Bo dunlap]

Yeah I've decided after all the advice to hold out for a flinter or just save up the cash to buy one.

 

[MacRob46]

Good move, IMHO.

 

[dave524]

I've got a Ruger 1B in .218 Bee and a T/C Seneca in .36 as well, as far as value goes I think everyone is right on the 2 T/C 's being slightly less in value than the Ruger.