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Need help in determining market value on Swedish M/1815 Flintlock
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FWIW I would keep it! Unless we are facing a house payment issue or something Im betting you will regret letting it go later :idunno:
Appreciate the thought, but I'm not a gun enthusiast, Motorcycles are my thing,.....I would get far more enjoyment passing this on to someone who really appreciates it and and buying an interesting bike that I can actively enjoy with my ride group. Recent company buy-out and resulting unexpected unemployment is also a factor. I did a Google search, couldn't find any currently for sale.
Also, Where/how would be the best way to sell this,...auction? Craigslist? Classifieds here or other site? Don't think I can put it on eBay. Any input appreciated
Also, Where/how would be the best way to sell this,...auction? Craigslist? Classifieds here or other site? Don't think I can put it on eBay. Any input appreciated
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Yeah, ebay doesn't like guns so they would make you part it out if you were to even be able to sell it on there. Too nice of a gun to do that to it.
I too am a motorcycle guy, but I also am a gun guy. I figured that they both went together pretty well.
That sure is a nice rifle. If you don't want it you can throw it away in my garbage can. It'd sure look nice in my gun safe next to my other shooters.
I too am a motorcycle guy, but I also am a gun guy. I figured that they both went together pretty well.
That sure is a nice rifle. If you don't want it you can throw it away in my garbage can. It'd sure look nice in my gun safe next to my other shooters.
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2.214,77 EUR according to this site:http://www.bisgaardnielsen.dk/product.asp?product=16467
From my figgerin that's about $1942.78 USD?
Looks to also be about .73" caliber from a quick Googling. Definately an interesting firearm! I'd shoot it!
From my figgerin that's about $1942.78 USD?
Looks to also be about .73" caliber from a quick Googling. Definately an interesting firearm! I'd shoot it!
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gunbroker only charges fees if the gun sells. Put what you'd consider a high number on the gun, then add another 25% to it, and put it up on the auction.
You can also find a seller who specializes in antique military arms and ask for an appraisal.
Stuff that commands a high price may take awhile to get it.
You can also find a seller who specializes in antique military arms and ask for an appraisal.
Stuff that commands a high price may take awhile to get it.
Sure is an old lock, like pre 1750 with an unbridled pan and an exterior "dog", for a Swedish 1815...I wonder if it's not even more rare?
LD
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Yeah, that's a dog lock which was an early form of flintlock before they made the half-cock stop. It might be older than you think. The first long Land Pattern Musket (Brown Bess) completely replaced the British Doglock Muskets by 1722. Evidently the Swedes continued making them as late as 1815. Definitely an interesting gun!
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The brass furniture def looks to be early to mid 1800's but the lock looks much earlier by more than a half century.
I wonder if the Swiss cannibalized older weapons parts as a cost saving?
Def looks out of place but the fit looks original.
I wonder if the Swiss cannibalized older weapons parts as a cost saving?
Def looks out of place but the fit looks original.
I wouldn't get too excited about the dog lock. From what I could see on the internet, the Swedes and Norwegians were still using them as late as 1834. They must have liked the safety aspect.
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2115 euros is about 2525 US dollars.
The problem is, that you would need to find a collector of military arms who may be interested in scandinavian arms. On the open market you may get 30% of this value if you are lucky.
Another option may be the auction through
Hermann Historica as an US lot.
The problem is, that you would need to find a collector of military arms who may be interested in scandinavian arms. On the open market you may get 30% of this value if you are lucky.
Another option may be the auction through
Hermann Historica as an US lot.
Wow, they sure did... they kept the "dog" on the lock even after converting to caplock on the Norwegian muskets. :shocked2:
Ya know that might very well be the truth.
LD
Ya know that might very well be the truth.
LD
This is an m/1815 "reparationsmodell", a term that can be loosely translated as "repair model". It means that it is an 1815 model musket using older parts, in this case the lock.
I think these are very interesting, there are examples having older 20mm musket barrels, russian or germal locks taken during the wars et.c. Here in Sweden the reparationsmodell is valued a bit lower than a true 1815, for some reason.
I guess it would sell for around 8000SEK or 950USD here. In the US i have no idea of pricing.
There are probably swedes that are more knowledgeable than me on this forum, though!
I think these are very interesting, there are examples having older 20mm musket barrels, russian or germal locks taken during the wars et.c. Here in Sweden the reparationsmodell is valued a bit lower than a true 1815, for some reason.
I guess it would sell for around 8000SEK or 950USD here. In the US i have no idea of pricing.
There are probably swedes that are more knowledgeable than me on this forum, though!
Thing is, here in Sweden the 1815 is a very common weapon (almost like Volvo's), since it was made between 1815 up to 1840's (where it changed to percussion model)and some Swedish regiments even had it up to the 1860's due to upgrading to newer weapon models was abit costly.
You can get a nice working 1815 here from 3000 SEK up to 5000 SEK (300 USD up to 500 USD, i bought mine for just about 380 USD.), maybe they are worth more in the US.
And the doglock has been rule for all military weaponry of the Swedish Army since the 1680's, when King Karl X Gustav had an accident with a poor lock and ordered the doglock security system to be mandatory, it was used i think up to the cartridge rifles came into action.
You can get a nice working 1815 here from 3000 SEK up to 5000 SEK (300 USD up to 500 USD, i bought mine for just about 380 USD.), maybe they are worth more in the US.
And the doglock has been rule for all military weaponry of the Swedish Army since the 1680's, when King Karl X Gustav had an accident with a poor lock and ordered the doglock security system to be mandatory, it was used i think up to the cartridge rifles came into action.
