Need help with identifying this rifle

[Kurt24]

 

[Kurt24]

Anyone

 

[EC121]

Can't see much of the lock, but it looks like an item made for the tourist trade.

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

Looks more like a pistol than a rifle.
Made somewhere in the Middle East. Probably circa 1900 give or take 30 years. Tourist trade sort of thing.

 

[SDSmlf]

Agree with others, appears to be Middle Eastern tourist trade gun. You may want to research Khyber Pass guns.

 

[64Springer]

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[Sam squanch]

Hold on, that may be the real deal- in an authentic Turkish pistol. More pictures please.

 

[Kurt24]

Anyone

Ok well i i can find similar ones when i searh turkish ones but cant find an exavt match with the silver lining . And the designs seem to be a different style and the entire gun is as long as the top of my shoulder to the tip of my middle finger so id say almost 3 feet

 

[Kurt24]

Hold on, that may be the real deal- in an authentic Turkish pistol. More pictures please.

 

[Sam squanch]

I think you have one of the better made tourist souvenir pistols. The decorations on the stock are not bad, excepting the inlay of Mrs Doubtfire on the wrist. The barrel may be genuine though. Very few had that molded breech- sight combination, like a matchlock barrel from India almost. Does the lock work? Can you remove it without damaging anything?

 

[Sam squanch]

I think the barrel was longer, then cut down for the pistol. May have an old original barrel on it.

 

[Kurt24]

I think you have one of the better made tourist souvenir pistols. The decorations on the stock are not bad, excepting the inlay of Mrs Doubtfire on the wrist. The barrel may be genuine though. Very few had that molded breech- sight combination, like a matchlock barrel from India almost. Does the lock work? Can you remove it without damaging anything?

Im not sure i was thinking about taking it apart to look for some makers mark but i dk ya the barrel is pitted in areas. Idk about turkish tho llookvwt the design differences

 

[necchi]

@Sam squanch is correct. What you have is an after-market replica of Turkish antiquity, a novelty, it has only tourist trade value.
Your market is as honest as your location. (period)

 

[Sam squanch]

People collect these tourist guns , I’ve seen a few sell for reasonable prices. They are good for wall hangers , if someone walks off with it , it’s not a big deal. The problem is when they are sold as originals to people who don’t know much about antique guns. Yours is one of the better examples, so it’s worth something.

 

[Sam squanch]

Make a nice hardwood stand for it , and display it!

 

[Dusty_Traveler]

excepting the inlay of Mrs Doubtfire on the wrist.

HAHAHAHA

 

[Kurt24]

@Sam squanch is correct. What you have is an after-market replica of Turkish antiquity, a novelty, it has only tourist trade value.
Your market is as honest as your location. (period)

Im on the oregon coast what kinda value u think it has

 

[Kurt24]

Im on the oregon coast what kinda value u think it has

Wouldnt a tourist trade have a marking on it somewhere tho

 

[Barry Strickland]

This is a very interesting sample of an early flint gun.
I have never seen a gun of this type that we would call high art. Even the best of those products of that area were lacking in fine finish.
The one thing that stands out to me to say it is quite old is the wood shrinkage which is considerable. If you note it has pushed out a lot of
the inlays which I assume are of bone.
The engraving is one level above most of what I have seen on this type.
The inlays are two levels or more above what I have seen on this type.
The inletting on the side plate and the thumb piece is lacking in precision, which is not unusual.
In my mind what you have here is the real deal, what the tourist trade guns are trying to duplicate.
Barry

 

[Sam squanch]

You really need to take the lock off, if possible, for a good ID…. Many of these were made SO long ago for sale, starting in the 1920’s thereabouts, they really look the part ….I think the barrel is old, but the lock is not.