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Swampman

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I think most guns have too small of a touch hole. I bought some bits that are .076 some time ago and I think they were for drilling touch holes. Does that sound about right?
 
Depends on the caliber & what powder you are shooting.

On the 40 cal & under I use a 1/16" (.0625")
On the 45 cal & larger I use a 5/64" (.0781")

If you are coning the vent, a #1 center drill is .0625 pilot and the #2 center drill is pilot is .0781".

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Mark, it seems that even among those with long experience in flintlocks will disagree on this one. I agree with Mike Brooks. Any vent larger than 1/16th will cause some loss of accuracy. It seems that the smaller the vent, the more even the pressures with a given load. I have never had ignition problems that were due to the smaller vent, but years ago when shooting cap guns, I knew when I needed a new nipple as my groups would open up. I would replace the nipple and groups would immediately shrink back to their original size. Some fl's seem to benefit in reliability when the vent is increased, but I have always felt that the problem really lies elsewhere, if there was an ignition problem to start with. Back to the cap guns, had I increased the charge a few grains instead of changing the nipple, it is possible that would have over come the burned out nipple and also brought the accuracy back. I don't know. The gun I was shooting was very picky about the nipple hole size. I get ignition comparable to cap lock speed with my 1/16th vent, but I use a liner that I opened the cone out wider than it originally came, and gave it a small outer cone, ending with a fire channel of maybe .030. I rarely get ignition problems even after it is heavily fouled. I built a Virginia type for a friend, with an L&R Queen Ann, and it has a constant slow, and unreliable ignition that even a larger vent has not helped. We are still working with it though. It has the same vent that I do, but we have the larger hole with no gain in performance.
 
This has been debated many times over... Just depends on how ya feel about it.

One thing you must consider tho... "Most" shooters are Not gunsmiths & they do not know every In & Out of making a flintlosk work to perfection, and few can tune a lock, etc. etc. etc. Thus IMHO the larger vent hole will help them with their ignition as it will simply give them more flast to the main charge a more reliable ignition & less fouled vent holes.......

In my experience on the change in pressure due to vent hole enlargement, was to simply increase the charge about 3-5 grains to compensate for the slight pressure loss.

I also like to put a small cone on the outside of the vent liner when this is posssible.

On the rifles I build for other people, I usually leave all of them at 1/16" vent hole dia. unless they specifically tell me they want it larger. This lets them have the option of changing it IF they want to. On my personal flintlocks I have the larger vent holes except on the small bores under 40 cal.

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As was said above everyone has their own opinion on this. My preference is a number 50 drill bit(70 thousands). 76 thousands didn't work as well in the 2 guns I tried it in.

Othern
 
Hey Swampman, the larger vent is more correct. The Manton's, who knew what they were about vented theirs .076"-.078"

Below was excerpted from:
[url] http://www.ctmuzzleloaders.com/mlexperiments/mantonlock/mantonlock.html[/url]

Of interest to modern muzzleloader shooters is that this, and most of the Manton brothers locks were of the 'self-priming' variety. A hole in the side of the frizzen cover communicated to the pan so the powder from the main charge would fill the pan when the gun was loaded. To prevent the 'fuse effect' from slowing ignition, a 'vent wiper' was used. This small appendage to the frizzen cover literally pulled powder away from the touch hole as the cover lifted, allowing the incandescence from the burning pan powder to directly ignite the main charge. This says several things about 18th century shooters:
a) They were interested in convenience.
b) They did not have our safety concerns.
c) They did not have a separate grade of priming powder.
d) They used large touch holes (which really helps lock speed).
 
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