need to know if I am crazy as I belive i am

[huntman58]

I got this wild idea in my head. I want to turn an old ugly never made right CVA kit 45 cal. Kentucky rifle that is a wonderful shooter in to a Tennessee mountain rifle most likely the poor boy kind to match my self poor LOL. No really I live on SSI and do not work so cost is a big thing. Would love to find a stock that can be inflated for this barrel and lock or at lest the barrel and then replace the lock and other hard wear. So any one knows were I can go to get some animal like this for a stock? Time is not biggy but costs are very much. This is to be come a shooter again not the wall hanger it is now and a deer hunter when I move to Missouri in a few years. any help or ides are welcomed even if it is an invite to the padded cell I have kept out of . Must be something about the smoke from the black that dose this to any one. I also have a Navy 1860 cap and ball, two CVA hawks and a CVA 50 cal Mountain rifle so do not want to break the family up just redress it.

 

[Bubba45]

If the barrel is a good shooter , why not :grin:

Call or email Pecatonica and see if they have a stock second in the Tennessee style and barrel dimension you need.

If you want iron hardware , get them a piece at a time as funds allow or make them yourself.

 

[Smk50]

I am in the process of doing that same thing with a traditions kentucky being turned into a fullstock Leman rifle.

 

[huntman58]

ya mean I am not fully crazy with this Idea cool now to get to work and fix my 30 plus year old mistakes LOL.

 

[Allan Gray]

ya mean I am not fully crazy with this Idea cool now to get to work and fix my 30 plus year old mistakes LOL.

Not crazy at all...I re-hashed my CVA Kentucky some 20 years after I built it, added a brass patch box and did a refinish and blueing.

They're nice, light little shooters. Never let me down when I was a kid chasing squirrels with it.

 

[bingo1952]

You may have a problem find a stock that can be "inflated". :rotf: Seriously though it should not be a problem to do what you want with the rifle and do it a little at a time to spread out the expense. :hatsoff:

 

[Many Klatch]

The cheapest way to get a stock that fits your needs is to start with a chunk of wood and carve away everything that doesn't look like a gun stock. It will take a lot more time, but it can cost a lot less. I built one gun and the stock cost me $10. The wood had some worm holes in it and wasn't curly, so they wanted to get rid of it. I have been shooting that gun for over 30 years. Gun stocks can be made of almost any hardwood. I have seen Persimmon stocks, Oak stocks, Hackberry stocks along with the usual Maple and Walnut.

Many Klatch

 

[Elnathan]

Just make sure the wood is dry and hard. Unless you have done this before I would stay away from oak and hickory, as they tend to be coarse-grained and difficult to carve cleanly. Pick a fine-grained piece of wood.

 

Keep yer chisels sharp and take yer time. Oh yeah, ....keep yer chisels sharp, too. :wink:

 

[DBox]

I'm in the process of doing the same thing. I bought a maple Kentuckey half stock and I'm building my furniture. I figure this will be a fairly cheap learning experience before I build a "real" longrifle".

 

[rkeltner]

you'd be suprised what you can do with one of those rifles without adding much of anything! i turned my 35 dollar yard sale kentucky kit into a halfstock, ditched that cheesie brass spacer, made a bocote spacer, and joined the two stock pieces together permanently. the end result doesn't look half bad!(that said, i've considered doing the new stock, lock and furniture, too. go figure!!!)

 

[huntman58]

Wow some great info and Ideas and I thank each and every one of you. I know for me to start with a board and make on is not an option I can do as I also have no place to do that nor tools for barrel channel and ram rod hole. The stock I have is toast big time. pin holes all over from tacks that did not work out and a trigger inlet to set double triggers that do not work (forgot about the fly well really did not know about them or understand them) any hoot the inletting destroyed the stock at the trigger area if not for that I may have been able to re work if as I never did bring the wood down to were it should have been.

 

[khwils]

Huntman, wait a minute, do you mean you inlet the triggers too deep? If so just glue in a piece of wood and re-inlet. Besides, don't think the old pieces don't have pieces of wood in them as a patch.

 

[huntman58]

That’s a big part of it. The other part is I put tacks all over the back half and well how do you make the tack holes so they do not show. So far looking at this as may be
1 removes brass middle and glue the two together to make a one piece stock
2 reshape and fill in bad inlet with a piece of wood and blend it in the reinlet for new single trigger
3 find way to cover the tack holes and then we would be good to go
Wow after 30 years of looking it and hating my self just may be I can have it back running.
The double set triggers on it are nice but can not cock the hammer with out setting them. Fact I would love to trade out the double set triggers and a fancy trigger guard for a simple single trigger and guard more like what came with it. Goal is to make it look almost like it should have to begin with but this was my very first gun and well it did start a love affair that is still going strong LOL.

 

[Bob Riegl]

:bow: Crazy is as Crazy does----momma said. However, if you are still in doubt give my secretary a call in the morning and ask to schedule a double session. Doc----- :rotf: :hatsoff:

 

[huntman58]

I have to go back to the single as the double confused me to much and the doc went crazy trying to help out :surrender:

 

[Kentuckywindage]

Shaddup! I have one of those traditions kentuckys and reading this stuff gives me those perverted idea's.
Post pictures if you go through with it!

 

[Elnathan]

Huntman58,
There are people who will inlet the barrel and drill the ramrod hole for a reasonable fee. You could probably get them to finish profiling the stock. Those are the really tedious and time-consuming jobs, I think.

 

[Tinker2]

The tack holes can be improved a lot by steaming them out.
I had a individual that a vandal stabbed holes in the stock of
one of his guns with a screw driver, a maple stock in a very
light color, he could not tell where the damage had been
done when he got it back.

Not hard to do, but does take a lot of time, and it’s all
good experience.

Grafting new wood in for trigger guards, entry pipes,
tangs, lock plates and the like was not that uncommon.
All good experience.


Tinker2

 

[huntman58]

Well I pulled it fully apart today. This is what I found wrong. Stock not even worth redoing has
1) Split by the entry pipe
2) The whole front half is cracked in two places
3) The inletting is so deep it is into the lock mortis
4) lock mortis is almost flat with no out line and also cracked
5) :surrender: just to many thing to fix and in my mind i can not see it looking much better more like a neglected gun patched up and I do not waant that any how good time to try before i do a TOW kit.
Looking at this thing I should have never been allowed to get near it back then. O well.
Now were would be the best place to get a stock? I am not looking for PC at all just a full stock shooter that looks old. Well be reusing all parts but triggers and trigger guard
By the way the triggers were inlet that deep and now I know why. Low blade double set double action triggers and no fly on tumbler but it needed tall triggers