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k.jacobfrost

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I don't know if any of you have seen this yet but I am quite excited about it. I got an email from Pete today stating that he just received a crate of them. There is about a month waiting time for them right now. Also stated that he will be talking to his blacksmith about replacing the trigger with a lever bar and see about getting me an estimate for it.

What do you guys / gals think?

Frost
 
:hmm: Well it sure does look real pretty, would like to know where it was made?; who proofed the barrel & how ?? I have certain trepidations regarding firearms that are made in India or Pakistan as to their safety and manufacturing & proofing
procedures. Nothing hostile in my questions, with the exception of safety considerations. I would cough up the money right now if I new those facts. :confused:
 
I think I am going to hold out for that Snaphaunce prototype musket. I just can't get over the mental hurdle of a burning match and open powder... but I guess that this is the wrong subforum to say that sort of thing in. :v
 
Pasquenel said:
:hmm: Well it sure does look real pretty, would like to know where it was made?; who proofed the barrel & how ?? I have certain trepidations regarding firearms that are made in India or Pakistan as to their safety and manufacturing & proofing
procedures. Nothing hostile in my questions, with the exception of safety considerations. I would cough up the money right now if I new those facts. :confused:

The guns are made in India and are not proofed. For the money, they are nice guns.
 
This is a snipet from an email I just got from Pete at MVTCo.

"We took out one of the matchlocks to try it out. Very fun to shoot. Very ergonomic stock and no "jarring" action of a flinter or caplock, so follow through was easy. I hit an empty shotgun hull at 25 yards with it, and there are a few cloverleaf holes in the target."

There web site doesn't say anything about proofing or not proofing there guns so how do you all know that they are not?

Frost
 
Look on MVT Co. F.A.Q. page-"Q #7: Are the barrels proofed?
A: No. Here in the US, there are no proof houses. I checked with SAAMI as to their reccomendations about proofing. ("Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturer's Institute", the organization who sets standards for such things)
Here was the response:

"SAAMI is currently working on setting standards for muzzleloading guns. There is no proof standard at this time... Cartridge guns are proofed at 130% to 140% of service load pressures. Where and how proofing of muzzleloaders will be done is not yet set."

What does this mean? It means that here in America, there are no standards to proof barrels to, nor proof houses to do the testing. In countries where there are proof laws and proof houses (like the UK and Germany), these routinely pass proof testing."-sorta answers the question?

:hmm:
 
A smart man, a fast man (Road Warrior reference there :grin: ) sees a business opportunity down the road, proofing all those barrels...
 
Russianblood said:
Pasquenel said:
:hmm: Well it sure does look real pretty, would like to know where it was made?; who proofed the barrel & how ?? I have certain trepidations regarding firearms that are made in India or Pakistan as to their safety and manufacturing & proofing
procedures. Nothing hostile in my questions, with the exception of safety considerations. I would cough up the money right now if I new those facts. :confused:

The guns are made in India and are not proofed. For the money, they are nice guns.

Well, admittedly the one shown looks nice. But one can get a matchlock from someone like John Buck for about the same money and not have to fret about the workmanship or what to do when something breaks. You may have a bit of a wait, but you would know that it was built for you and of good quality material and fit.

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His web site can be found here John Buck

Claypipe: I completely forgot about his site until you brought him up. His matchlock does seem to be prettier. I guess I forgot about his site partly because he doesn't offer any pricing info for his work. The gun is nice, but I don't think I have ever seen a matchlock with that kind of rear sight. I would sure like to see some documentation for it. :hmm:

Frost
 
I would also whole heartedly endorse John Buck's guns. I had the pleasure of working with John a couple of years back at a Scout Camp in VA, John is the best sort of guy, Up front, pleasnat and a good craftsman. While there I also had the pleasure of handleing a few guns John had built and was very pleased with them. Additionally I have a few friends who have guns built by him that are fine pieces.
 
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