New to BP shooting with a gun that has ignition issue or me?

[HORON]

Newb to BP guns
The gun in question is a Pedersoli Tryon 54 cal., loaded with 60 grs of triple 7 ffg powder with a ball and lubed patch on top. I read where to start low and work up on powder charge but is 60 grs too low for proper ignition? Just purchased the firearm here on this site. Took it apart the nite before for a good cleaning and inspection. Took the nipple off also and used the cleaner rod on the nipple wrench to make sure nipple was open and bore scope the barrel which was beautiful inside. Anyone got any advice for help?
Thanks

 

[BoomStick]

60 grains should ignite the same as any other charge. It could be the percussion caps are weak or the flash channel blocked by something. Are the powder and caps new?

 

[HORON]

60 grains should ignite the same as any other charge. It could be the percussion caps are weak or the flash channel blocked by something. Are the powder and caps new?

I noticed the flash hole in the nipple to be about the size of the wire in a bread tie, sure seemed awful small. Gonna clean everything again tonight and drill that hole out a size or 2 or just order another one . Since i made post ive went thru a ton of old post on here about ignition troubles and triple 7 powder. This site is awesome.

 

[HORON]

I noticed the flash hole in the nipple to be about the size of the wire in a bread tie, sure seemed awful small. Gonna clean everything again tonight and drill that hole out a size or 2 or just order another one . Since i made post ive went thru a ton of old post on here about ignition troubles and triple 7 powder. This site is awesome.

BTW, the caps and powder are new.

 

[satwel]

I assume you ran some patches down the barrel to remove residual oil when you cleaned it?
Did you snap a couple of caps with the muzzle pointed down at a blade of grass or a dry leaf to see if the flash channel was clear before you loaded it?
60 grains is a fine starting point for a .54.
Triple 7 is harder to ignite than the holy black. Perhaps your caps are weak.

 

[HORON]

I assume you ran some patches down the barrel to remove residual oil when you cleaned it?
Did you snap a couple of caps with the muzzle pointed down at a blade of grass or a dry leaf to see if the flash channel was clear before you loaded it?
60 grains is a fine starting point for a .54.
Triple 7 is harder to ignite than the holy black. Perhaps your caps are weak.

Sounds like a good plan. After i clean tonight im gonna perform what you advised. TBH an oily barrel was what i first thought of when it didnt ignite.

 

[Dave Dworshak]

Is there powder under the nipple?

 

[HORON]

Not at my house atm. When i get home i will do more checking. Just so everyone knows after i cleaned it i took the inspection screw out under the nipple and put my borelight in hole and could see light in the barrel. I think im gonna find oil residue under the nipple when i check it tonight. That barrel under the nipple i didnt think about swabbing out with a q tip and bet it was full of oil.

 

[Phil Coffins]

I would advise against drilling the nipple, the small hole focuses the flame from the cap and reduces blow back.

 

[LME]

Listen to Phil! There is something else wrong. If you can't figure it out get help before you create a problem that is harder to fix!

 

[HORON]

Excellent advice and after i pulled the ball and patch i turned the barrel down and no powder ran out so im pretty sure i had too much oil residue and going to clean it all up tonight and will post a follow up tomorrow or the next day. Thanks for allllllll the expert advice.

 

[French Colonial]

As others have mentioned above, run an alcohol patch down the barrel a couple of times before loading, snap a couple of caps to make sure the fire channel is clear also.

I assume it is a chambered breach like most Pedersoli rifles, do a search (upper right) for chambered breach and you will find lots of information on how to deal with it.

Drilling the nipple....not needed.

 

[pat i.]

No powder coming out after you pulled the ball and tipped the barrel down sounds like you dry balled it to me?

 

[wiscoaster]

..... is 60 grs too low for proper ignition? .....

10 gr. is enough to ignite with a clear touch hole and proper pan powder*. That's a load that I typically shoot off in my basement for testing purposes after having a gun and lock fully disassembled. No ball, of course, just a wad over powder. Upon ignition it mostly just goes "poof", makes smoke and shoots the charred wad out 10 or 15 ft.

* re-reading your OP I see you're got a percussion gun, but the same applies if you've got a clear nipple hole and your cap ignites.