New (to me) little oddball

[dogfood]

I've recently been trying to cultivate a broader collection of ML longarms. I like oddball things, and so...

This guy just arrived today.
.45 cal (or should it be 51ga?) smooth rifle.
Pretty light and well handling. Previous owner said she shot .440 rb with a .010 patch with good results. I figure it will make for a nice informal shooter for my 50 yd backyard range.
Whle I'm certainly no expert in the subject, this is by far the smallest bore smooth rifle I've encountered. I've generally understood them to be .54-62cal.
Any ideas as to why someone would make this? (Welding seems imply it's homepsun). Or what kinda shooting it would be best for?
Pics below.
Thanks for looking.
Cheers,
dgfd

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Think .410 shotgun. It may turn out to be very handy and economical for small game or just for fun.

 

[OldRust]

dogfood

That is a cool find ! Any markings at all ? Proofmarks under the barrel maybe to give you an idea of origin.

If you follow brittsmoothy and his hunts here on the forum you will see that the small caliber smoothbores are not a handicap. At least not in his hands.

I don't follow you on the welding

Thanks
O.R.

 

[azmntman]

I like it! Do look at Brits pages on his hunts with the .45 smoothbore.

 

[dogfood]

dogfood

That is a cool find ! Any markings at all ? Proofmarks under the barrel maybe to give you an idea of origin.

I don't follow you on the welding

Thanks
O.R.

I'll take a look under the barrel if i can. It's pinned, oddly enough for a halfstock.
There are welding seems on the rib, ramrod pipes, and the grip are all welded. Nicely done welds, so not sure if they show up in the photos

 

[dogfood]

Sigjts are welded on as well

 

[Britsmoothy]

Don't think 410! Think 28g!!
Mine uses between 1/2oz and 3/4oz.
For legal reasons I can't comment on round ball but you'll like it!
Mine shoots 5x.36" balls amazing!

 

[Britsmoothy]

 

[dogfood]

Britsmoothy,

Very cool. Thanks for load ideas.
What's the model of the one in the picture there?

 

[Archer 756]

Just think you can shoot either round ball or shoot have fun !

 

[Bassdog1]

Twenty eight gauge Muzzle loader is definitely a gun I would love to own. I shoot a 28 gauge wingmaster for pheasant, rabbit and quail and would love to try one in a frontloader.

 

[bluemule66]

I was watching that one sell. It went for just a little more than I felt like paying. I like it to, but I already have a TC 56 smoothbore so I let it go. It will be fun!

 

[dogfood]

I was watching that one sell. It went for just a little more than I felt like paying. I like it to, but I already have a TC 56 smoothbore so I let it go. It will be fun!

Oh jeeze, were we in a bidding war with one another?

 

[Britsmoothy]

Britsmoothy,

Very cool. Thanks for load ideas.
What's the model of the one in the picture there?

Mine is an armysport. About 1982 made.
Some European firearm laws make owning a shotgun easier than owning a rifle so many a make offered smoothbore options of their rifles.

 

[user 49399]

That's one fine gun there! Should be a lot of fun!

 

[bluemule66]

Oh jeeze, were we in a bidding war with one another?

Nope, I was waiting to see if it would go up. If it didn't I was going to bid. I hate to see them go to cheap!

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Don't think 410! Think 28g!!
Mine uses between 1/2oz and 3/4oz.
For legal reasons I can't comment on round ball but you'll like it!
Mine shoots 5x.36" balls amazing!
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A 45 is about half way between a 410 and a 28. Either way, it should be a winner!

 

[The Crisco Kid]

Britsmoothy,

I really hope the mask you are wearing is for camouflage so you can sneak up on the rabbit and not for other purposes!

 

[Britsmoothy]

Britsmoothy,

I really hope the mask you are wearing is for camouflage so you can sneak up on the rabbit and not for other purposes!

Sure.
I wear a hoodie for gas stations.

 

[smo]

WANTED!

The Mask Covid Killer known too stalk about the countryside and intimidate small bunnies , squirrels, crows, pigeons and other critters.

Often accompanied by this fiesta, fierce
Killer K-9

Jess


Both are wanted for pestering Varmints & Vermin and considered too be armed and dangerous!

If you wear feathers or fur, approach with “EXTREME “ Caution!

Jess looks guilty, how many other dogs you know that carries a gun...

I’m not so sure about the other Guy....