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ian45662

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I am waiting on a new to me uberti made 1858 Remington and I cant wait. Guy I am buying it off of recommends 21 grains with cream of wheat as filler and 457 ball. You guys have any other ideas?
 
Lots of other ideas.

Presumably the seller developed that load and found it to be the one the gun likes most, so there's a very good argument for following his advice.

However, why spoil the fun? You can always test a few loads above and below that number to see if you can do better. Gives you a good reason to go shooting, improves your proficiency, gives more power and better gas mileage too!
 
It's just my opinion but the Remington's have a pretty flimsy loading lever.

If it were mine I would not try to load conicals in it. Their extra length takes a pretty stout ramming to shear off all of that lead while the bullet enters the chambers.
 
Zonie said:
It's just my opinion but the Remington's have a pretty flimsy loading lever.

If it were mine I would not try to load conicals in it. Their extra length takes a pretty stout ramming to shear off all of that lead while the bullet enters the chambers.

Zonie is correct on the loading lever pin and using the extra pressure needed with conicals will shear or bend the loading lever if not careful. Since the first of the year I have sent back 8-10 guns with this problem to Uberti Service Department.
 
Well then what about if I load it from one of those cylinder loader thingys and not have to use the loading lever that comes on the gun? Are conicals accurate?
 
ian45662 said:
Well then what about if I load it from one of those cylinder loader thingys and not have to use the loading lever that comes on the gun? Are conicals accurate?

That would save the loading lever. Have a friend that's a super pistol shot (Camp Perry Championships) he claims to get better performance from round balls over conicals? I'm sure others have had different experiences?
 
buck conner said:
ian45662 said:
Well then what about if I load it from one of those cylinder loader thingys and not have to use the loading lever that comes on the gun? Are conicals accurate?

That would save the loading lever. Have a friend that's a super pistol shot (Camp Perry Championships) he claims to get better performance from round balls over conicals? I'm sure others have had different experiences?

Balls have been more accurate than conicals in every C&B revolver I've ever owned. And you don't have to worry about aligning them when loading.
 
When it comes to accuracy, be it round ball or bullet the final answer is it will depend on the chamber diameter and the bores groove diameter.

Most of the reproduction C&B guns have barrel groove diameters that are larger than the chamber diameters in the cylinder.

This results in shooting a undersize diameter bullet or ball thru the barrel and the accuracy is usually rather poor.

The amount of undersize the chambers actually have depends on the guns maker so a person cannot just say, "Remingtons are less undersize than Colts" or visa versa.

Some folks enlarge their chambers so that the balls or bullets are not sheared to a size that is smaller than the bores grooves.

While this is OK for some guns pay particular attention to the chambers wall thickness between the chambers.
Many of the .44 caliber guns have darn little material and any attempt to enlarge the chamber sizes will reduce this already thin wall.

In other words, be darn careful before trying this sort of modification.
 
If I were going to do something like that I would have it sent off to someone who knows what they are doing. I would not trust myself to do something like that
 
I remember an article in Backwoodsmen that the author talked about reaming all cylinders to the same size to improve the grouping. A friend read the article and found a reamer the correct size and did as suggested. He claimed it worked for tighter groups or it may have given him that thought that it did???
 
Mine likes 25 grains of 3Fg Goex, a pre-lubed wonder-wad, and a .454 Hornady ball.

Have fun , and your mileage may vary. :)

Dave
 
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