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[innocent bystander]

Hi all you austin-halleck rifle owners!

Okay, so I got the nipple and took the rifle out to shoot it today. Set trigger is really nice pull, but when I tried to fire it just using the main trigger, it would not trip the hammer.

On all my other set trigger rifles, you can use the main trigger without setting the set trigger. So, is this a trigger sear problem or just a quirk of the rifle.

If it is a sear problem, who can you recommend I send the rifle for service. FYI, I am not a handy person with fine tools, so please don't suggest that I do anything to the sear myself!

 

[Zonie]

I don't own one but I can say there are two different types of double set triggers.

The commonly used ones can fire the barrel without first setting the rear trigger. The pull is usually fairly heavy if this method is used.

It can also be cocked with the rear trigger first set and it will relese the lock with a very light touch on the front trigger.

This style of trigger can be cocked to full cock without first setting the rear trigger.

This style is called a double lever trigger.


The other type of double set trigger cannot trip the lock without first setting the rear trigger.
This style of trigger almost always must have the rear trigger set before it can be brought to full cock. It's called a "single lever" trigger.

The fact that you can bring the lock to full cock without first setting the rear trigger makes me think your gun has the more common double lever style trigger.

That brings us to what could be the problem?

One common cause is someone tightened the screws that hold the lock in the stock.

Unscrew the one or two screws that pass thru the stock and into the lock just a few turns.
Then, try gently rocking the lock back and forth using the hammer to apply the pressure.
Then, try cocking and firing the lock with just the front trigger.
If this doesn't help, read on:

Another likely cause is the blade or "lever" on the top of the front trigger is hanging up on a bit of wood in the slot it must travel thru to reach the lock's sear.

To see if this is happening you will have to remove the lock. This is usually done by setting the lock to half cock and then removing the one or two screws that pass thru the stock, holding the lock in place.

After you get the lock off of the stock, get a flashlight and shine it thru the hole that normally clears the locks sear arm.

Pull the front trigger fully to the rear.

You should see a metal blade rise in the sear hole to the point that it almost completely closes off the hole.

If the blade only rises to the lower side of the hole, a piece of wood is blocking its travel.

You will have to remove the trigger guard and trigger to gain access to the slot but once done, carving off the bit of offending wood is relatively easy.

 

[Cowboy]

I don't own one but I can say there are two different types of double set triggers.

The commonly used ones can fire the barrel without first setting the rear trigger. The pull is usually fairly heavy if this method is used.



This style of trigger can be cocked to full cock without first setting the rear trigger.

This style is called a double lever trigger.




The fact that you can bring the lock to full cock without first setting the rear trigger makes me think your gun has the more common double lever style trigger.

Zonie, You are right on the money! The Austin&Halleck Mountain Rifle has double lever style triggers

You do not have to set the rear trigger in order to cock the hammer back into firing position.

They are not single lever triggers.

Respectfully, Cowboy :thumbsup:

 

[Grenadier1758]

Zonie is right on top of the analysis of the problem. Most likely the problem lies in the region of the main trigger lever being too high and the sear can't enter the full cock notch. The set trigger will pull the main trigger lever a bit lower and this it will allow the sear to get to the full cock notch.

A shim to the front of the trigger plate may be needed.

 

[Zonie]

I don't think he was having a problem getting the rifle to full cock. The problem is, the front trigger won't release the lock by itself (as it should) once the lock is brought to the full cocked position.

 

[Pete44ru]

Hi all you austin-halleck rifle owners!


Set trigger is really nice pull, but when I tried to fire it just using the main trigger, it would not trip the hammer.

On all my other set trigger rifles, you can use the main trigger without setting the set trigger.
So, is this a trigger sear problem or just a quirk of the rifle.

I would suggest that you turn the rifle upside-down & inspect the trigger area for an adjustment screw.

If your rifle has adjustable DS triggers, sometimes folks will mis-adjust them when seeking a finer trigger pull, to the point that the front trigger won't trip off the sear.

If your rifle doesn't have adjustable DS triggers, it would need to have the lock pulled for an inspection of what's going on in there - which could range from something as simple as a small/dis-lodged sliver of wood fouling the trigger(s), to the trigger/lock parts needing to be worked on.