Some rendezvous now do not allow “Ground Fires.” Rendezvous rules state “All fires must be at least 12 inches off the Ground.”/ ”Cooking fires must be no less than 18 inches from the ground.” So the question becomes what type of fire retaining units are others in the primitive world using that kind of emulate a primitive look. Without going to a boxy looking brazier what’s everyone else using??? Are you Dragging your backyard BBQs to the rendezvous and hiding them behind the previes. Are Coleman stoves frying breakfast bacon in the Tipi with the flap down. Fire Rings in the Sky !!! Pleeease, someone post some pictures of possible alternatives.
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:barf: It was bound to happen! Take a small oil barrel and wweld proper length legs on ir ,cut the sides to 6 in or taller ,cut slots for skewers and trivits and stuff, camaflage with engine paint . at least it will not be square.
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I have seen several instances of a steel Harrow disc placed on 3 metal stakes pounded into the ground used as a fireplace. This elevates the fire above the ground.
You could also get a fire blanket and use it in conjunction with loose dirt to build a firepit.
I guess it will all depend on how picky the sponsors are........
Don't knock the braziers. With good charcoal for fuel they are handy to have and do a dandy job. The major problem with them is that you can't easily regulate the heat as you can on the fire (other than removing coals, and then where do you put the lit coals?........) They are also d**n hard on the shins if you aren't paying attention to where you put your feet!
You could also get a fire blanket and use it in conjunction with loose dirt to build a firepit.
I guess it will all depend on how picky the sponsors are........
Don't knock the braziers. With good charcoal for fuel they are handy to have and do a dandy job. The major problem with them is that you can't easily regulate the heat as you can on the fire (other than removing coals, and then where do you put the lit coals?........) They are also d**n hard on the shins if you aren't paying attention to where you put your feet!
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I've seen an oil type drum cut down and set in a metal tripod about 5-6' tall. The top of the tripod could then be used to hang pots from or a grate thrown over the drum. It kinda looked old timmey but then I was also trying not to pay close attention to it. They have had that rule at the Winternationals here in AZ for years.
IT all depends upon how close to something that might have existed back in your chosen time period you wish to achieve.
The simple answer is 6 to 12 inches cut off of an old oil drum, with some method of attaching legs to raise it up high enough - and then a bag of sand to pour inside it to build your fire on. It's light, simple, easy to replace. Looks like sh*t, but it meets the requirements and works. Some people use a truck/semi brake drum for the base, with steel plates bolted/welded in to seal up the bottom.
Those square braziers are documented correct from the mid 1800's on back to the Middle Ages. And there are round versions. But you still have to put it up on something - so the heat from the bottom doesn't scorch the grass/ground. I usually carry along several fire bricks. I lay them out on the ground (or on a table) and then put my brazier on top of them. Some people have had a metal table/bench made up just to set their brazier(s) on, and raise them up high enough. The stands are kind of hard to document, but they work and they meet the fire code requirements.
One big/heavy option would be to make a "raised hearth" out of wood/iron, brick, and sand. Make a wood or iron framework, then layer in fire brick/sand to build your fire on. Think of it kind of like a blacksmith forge without the attached bellows. Versions of these were used on ships all the time. Some were built right down on the deck/floor, and some were raised above it with firewood storage below. You just need enough brick, mud, sand to insulate the wood from the fire. And it raises the cooking fire up for easier working around.
So, it's all a matter of how far you wish to go. Just don't drag along that tin/aluminum BBQ grill on wheels! (unless you have no other options)
Just a few humble thoughts to share. Take them as such.
Mikey - out in the Hinterlands
The simple answer is 6 to 12 inches cut off of an old oil drum, with some method of attaching legs to raise it up high enough - and then a bag of sand to pour inside it to build your fire on. It's light, simple, easy to replace. Looks like sh*t, but it meets the requirements and works. Some people use a truck/semi brake drum for the base, with steel plates bolted/welded in to seal up the bottom.
Those square braziers are documented correct from the mid 1800's on back to the Middle Ages. And there are round versions. But you still have to put it up on something - so the heat from the bottom doesn't scorch the grass/ground. I usually carry along several fire bricks. I lay them out on the ground (or on a table) and then put my brazier on top of them. Some people have had a metal table/bench made up just to set their brazier(s) on, and raise them up high enough. The stands are kind of hard to document, but they work and they meet the fire code requirements.
One big/heavy option would be to make a "raised hearth" out of wood/iron, brick, and sand. Make a wood or iron framework, then layer in fire brick/sand to build your fire on. Think of it kind of like a blacksmith forge without the attached bellows. Versions of these were used on ships all the time. Some were built right down on the deck/floor, and some were raised above it with firewood storage below. You just need enough brick, mud, sand to insulate the wood from the fire. And it raises the cooking fire up for easier working around.
So, it's all a matter of how far you wish to go. Just don't drag along that tin/aluminum BBQ grill on wheels! (unless you have no other options)
Just a few humble thoughts to share. Take them as such.
Mikey - out in the Hinterlands
I have not run into this yet in the Rockies. As you know if you are camping in the Mtns. with an open fire. You must have a shovel, a 5 Gal. bucket of water and a burlap sack for wetting and beating flames. Most western states are in a drought that has lasted for 10 years. The fire danger is high every where in the west.
The best fire pit is a drum from an old house hold dryer. They have many small holes to draw air, they are tough and a little heavy. Most of them have a ring of cement in the tops for balance. This keeps them from tipping over. They will not burn out like old oil drums. They can be set on a metal frame or on blocks. They work very well. :thumbsup:
The best fire pit is a drum from an old house hold dryer. They have many small holes to draw air, they are tough and a little heavy. Most of them have a ring of cement in the tops for balance. This keeps them from tipping over. They will not burn out like old oil drums. They can be set on a metal frame or on blocks. They work very well. :thumbsup:
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Check out the web for cooking in other countries, the equipment used.
I shop at the Turkish Halah market for chees and olives, spices. They even sell gas cooker for flat breads & food.
Their are plenty of cooking utensils options not limited to the American experience. I started looking at options because everyone has the same stuff.
I thought wait, most of the people in this country 200 years ago were from other countries bet they use old country cooking methods. :hmm:
bpb
I shop at the Turkish Halah market for chees and olives, spices. They even sell gas cooker for flat breads & food.
Their are plenty of cooking utensils options not limited to the American experience. I started looking at options because everyone has the same stuff.
I thought wait, most of the people in this country 200 years ago were from other countries bet they use old country cooking methods. :hmm:
bpb
Years ago, my boy scout troop used a platform lashed together to make a surface about 30" off the ground....the bed was of branches laid across the two longer side pieces..we threaded an add'l piece parallel to the long side pieces down the middle...we then dug up turfs and put them on the bed, upside down...our charcoal fire was laid on that surface...met all of the requirements for a local scout council's camporee's, and worked pretty good...it was especially nice to cook not bent over, or on our knees...Hank
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3 large rocks with a thick piece of slate on top, PC even to a caveman :thumbsup:
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Wow...that's heavy man!! :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Russ. Bullmoose man (you need to get a shorter calling name)...thanks...I don't know where we got the idea...it may even have come down from the local council as one of a number of alternatives to fires built on the ground...I recall that we were on the very spacious grounds of a Catholic religious order....most troops used a folding table and charcoal grills...Hank
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Just announced in the last 1/2 hour.. Michigan will have no open fires in 75 counties due to severe drought.
