Non-convertible BP Revolver

[sotxnoah]

Hi all,
Is anyone aware of any BP pistol(s) that are not convertible, i.e., that can't have the cylinder swapped out for a modern cartridge cylinder? Thanks in advance.

 

[ppg1949]

First, a late welcome to the forum. I’m not sure there is an answer to your question. It might help if you were to go into more detail why you are asking this question? It seems the makers of these convertible cylinders cover most of the c&b revolvers made today but everything I’ve read repeats loud and clear not to use them in brass framed revolvers. I doubt this helps but perhaps another more knowledgeable member will kick in with an answer.
Good luck.

 

[springfield art]

Hi all,
Is anyone aware of any BP pistol(s) that are not convertible, i.e., that can't have the cylinder swapped out for a modern cartridge cylinder? Thanks in advance.

Any one that they don't make a cylinder for, not being funny just a fact. I know eventually cylinders will be serialized and registered, get 'em while you can. They're pretty busy dealing with "ghosties" for now.

 

[sotxnoah]

First, a late welcome to the forum. I’m not sure there is an answer to your question. It might help if you were to go into more detail why you are asking this question? It seems the makers of these convertible cylinders cover most of the c&b revolvers made today but everything I’ve read repeats loud and clear not to use them in brass framed revolvers. I doubt this helps but perhaps another more knowledgeable member will kick in with an answer.
Good luck.

Thanks PPG, I'm asking because I'm looking for one specifically that CANNOT have the cylinder swapped out. Full honesty, ran afoul of the law when I was young. I live in TX and can legally own anything pre-1899 that doesn't fire cartridge ammunition, but the discrepancy b/t state and federal law is that under federal law anything that can be converted is considered a "firearm." In short, I don't want to run afoul of the law as a rehabilitated, conscious man.

 

[Mousegunguy]

I’ve never seen a conversion cylinder for an NAA mini companion.

 

[64Springer]

First, a late welcome to the forum. I’m not sure there is an answer to your question. It might help if you were to go into more detail why you are asking this question? It seems the makers of these convertible cylinders cover most of the c&b revolvers made today but everything I’ve read repeats loud and clear not to use them in brass framed revolvers. I doubt this helps but perhaps another more knowledgeable member will kick in with an answer.
Good luck.

Dropping some serious coin on an original Colt or Remington would/could/should solve the problem.

I doubt aftermarket conversion cylinders would fit originals.

Maybe a Pietta Pepperbox would work.

 

[SDSmlf]

Hi all,
Is anyone aware of any BP pistol(s) that are not convertible, i.e., that can't have the cylinder swapped out for a modern cartridge cylinder? Thanks in advance.

You may want to look at the Uberti 1873 Cattlemen Percussion pistol. The firing pin and hole in frame are offset in such a way that some machining and possible welding would likely be required to convert it as far as I know. Also have not heard of any conversion cylinders being offered by anyone.

Believe it was made for markets that didn’t allow (or easily allow) cartridge guns, but still wanted the look of a 73 Peacemaker.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002297696

 

[sotxnoah]

Dropping some serious coin on an original Colt or Remington would/could/should solve the problem.

I doubt aftermarket conversion cylinders would fit originals.

Maybe a Pietta Pepperbox would work.

Man you aint kidding! I'm looking at some originals right now and lowest price I see so far is $1500-$2000!
Thanks for the other suggestion, too.

 

[sotxnoah]

You may want to look at the Uberti 1873 Cattlemen Percussion pistol. The firing pin and hole in frame are offset in such a way that some machining and possible welding would likely be required to convert it as far as I know. Also have not heard of any conversion cylinders being offered by anyone.

Believe it was made for markets that didn’t allow (or easily allow) cartridge guns, but still wanted the look of a 73 Peacemaker.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002297696

Excellent suggestion and a reasonable price, too. Thank you!

 

[64Springer]

You may want to look at the Uberti 1873 Cattlemen Percussion pistol. The firing pin and hole in frame are offset in such a way that some machining and possible welding would likely be required to convert it as far as I know. Also have not heard of any conversion cylinders being offered by anyone.

Believe it was made for markets that didn’t allow (or easily allow) cartridge guns, but still wanted the look of a 73 Peacemaker.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1002297696

A nice looking piece for 430 bucks.

But it's Achillies Heel is still the trashy fire control group that plagues every other cheap cap n ball revolver.

Build that gun with Ruger Vaquero internals, charge 200 more for it, then we'd have something.

 

[hawkeye2]

There are no conversion cylinders available for reproduction Spiller & Burr, Whitney, 1862 Colt Pocket Navy & Army, & Lemat.

 

[64Springer]

1862 Colt Pocket Navy for the win.

 

[nkbj]

Oh, this is an easy one.

 

[64Springer]

Sorry Post 11.

Post 13 for the win.

Gotta go with the solid top strap.

 

[Pete453]

There are no conversion cylinders available for reproduction Spiller & Burr, Whitney, 1862 Colt Pocket Navy & Army, & Lemat.

I'll add to that list. To the best of my knowledge, Starr single action and Rogers and Spencer haven't had conversions made for them, but both are tough to find. Your best bet is probably the Cattleman mentioned above.
ANYTHING can be converted if you want to, those laws are like most, ridiculous. Good luck in your search.

 

[hawkeye2]

You are right about the Star but conversion cylinders for the R&S have been available for many years. I wonder if I've forgotten any others.

 

[CVA Enthusiast]

I might be confused, my understanding is that for a conversion cylinder 4473 is filled out and an NCIC performed, Is that one of those pending state/jurisdiction?

 

[64Springer]

A conversion cylinder all by its lonesome is a paperweight.

Are we doing 4473s for paperweights now?

 

[hawkeye2]

To the best of my knowledge no paperwork is required to buy a conversion cylinder unless your state or locality requires it. They can be bought on line from Kirst, Taylors and Howell.

 

[CVA Enthusiast]

To the best of my knowledge no paperwork is required to buy a conversion cylinder unless your state or locality requires it. They can be bought on line from Kirst, Taylors and Howell.

Thanks,