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Octagon to Round inletting?

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Simple barrel inlet = straight barrel = 4

Harder barrel inlet = Octagon to round = 7

Most difficult inlet = Swamped = 10
 
Hi Skychief,
Zonie has it about right. Keep in mind though, that some octagon-round barrels taper and flare more than others. The less swamping the easier to inlet.

dave
 
I HATE round barrels. I find them much more difficult to inlet than full octagon ones. They're just a pain.
 
awww you guys are discouraging me! I am seriously thinking of getting rid of some centerfire guns to get the money to build a Northwest Trade gun. Track of the Wolf says that it is a good build for a first timer. theirs has an octagon to round barrel.
 
I find them all about the same to inlet.. don't really have a problem with any of them.
 
If you are going to buy a pre-inlet stock, most of the hard work is already done for you.

Enlarging the supplied barrel channel can be done with some course sandpaper to do the final barrel fitting.
 
they're a piece of cake, I get a blank, and a barrel, and send it off to Dave Keck, or Dave Rase, and it comes back perfect. Only problem is my wallets a bit lighter. :)

Bill
 
Ah, go for it partner. These guys will help you out if you get stuck. Truth be told I wanted to build a fowler or a trade gun for my 1st. build because I already 3 rifles, but I read that inleting a rifle barrel was easier than a round or octagon to round barrel. Well I should have read more closely. They were talking about a straight barrel not a swamped like mine. Been fiddling with it for weeks. :cursing: Really close now so.. Buy the books if you can, read, check others posts and if your not in a hurry you'll get it done. Not to mention misery enjoys company. :wink:

Good luck,
fosters
 
It helps when you are attempting to inlet a swamped barrel that you have prior experience in BOAT BUILDING! Because of the curves in the hull of a boat, boat plans, and builders use " Stations" on both the plans, and on the actual keep or wood frame of the boat. In fact, most wooden boats space the ribs at the station lines.

On gunstocks, you want to use a long flexible ruler, that will allow you to mark the length of the barrel on the stock black at 1" intervals, for the most part. For the tight curves( bends) where the barrel is swamped, many builders will mark stations every 1/2" or even 1/4" on the blank. That allows you to take depth measurements on the barrel at each station, so that you an use a depth gauge to guide you in cutting the mortise to the right depth, and, eventually to the right diameter when working with a round barrel section.

To remove the waste wood, many builders will drill holes down the centerline to the depth marked on the ledger board they make up to transfer barrel diameters from the barrel to the stock. Some dispense with a separate ledger board, and just write notes on the side of the stock blank at each station indicating the max. depth.

You can buy router bits in about every size imaginable, to cut away the waste wood from the barrel mortise. However, the same work can, and was, done using saws, and chisels. Use a piece(s) of cut-off barrel, as a SCRAPER to get the mortise to the final dimensions. You can solder or weld a handle to these short sections of barrels to make the scrapers needed to take that last layer of wood off to allow the barrel to seat properly. :hmm: :hatsoff:
 
I don't have time for all of that.. :shocked2: :haha:

All it takes is one simple 90 degree angle and you have a perfect depth gauge for the entire barrel. :v
 
Roy. You know what you are doing. Trying to train someone to use a 90 degree angle as a depth gauge takes far more time, than using a ledger board, and marking depths based on the thickness of the barrel at each station, IMHO.

An examination of some original stocks for the Brown Bess show that stock mortises were cut out round the entire length, with no provision for the flats that are filed back towards the Breech. Later, when swamped barrels became more common( later 18th century)the practice of not fitting the mortise exactly to the curve of the barrel persisted, and many stocks have been found that have a round bottom mortise to them, out to the muzzle cap. Not all, of course, but more than a few. The fewer refinements to the gun, the more likely that the barrel mortise fit will not be "precise". Time was money, and even in shops where apprentices did most of the Coarse work on the stocks, corners were cut, literally, to save time. :hmm: :surrender: :thumbsup:
 
I am going to have to do a pictorial on inletting a barrel.. What do ya'll want?? Oct to round or swamped? Both??

Using a 90 for a depth gauge is not rocket science and works great. Far more simple than taking a measurment every 1/4"... Thats 176 measurements for a 44" long barrel not counting the depth :doh: :youcrazy:

I have yet to see a Brown Bess barrel with flats :idunno: Could be thats why they where inlet round?
 
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