Old double bbl German pistol

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I'm somewhat new to the forum but have learned a lot in that short time. And I know that someone out there will help me with info on the gun described below.

I picked up this gun several years ago in Germany when I was in the army.
It's a double bbl Fl converted to percussion.

Barrels are tapered round 7" long with a rib like on double bbl shotguns, approx 45 cal. No rear sight but has a brass blade front sight. The number 1. is stamped on the bbl tang (where is no. 2 ?).

Hardware is steel with what looks like an old bluing job.
There is incised carving in front of the triggerguard that ends up running forward along each side of the stock like on a lot of longrifles.

On either side of the bbl tang is C-scroll carving that eventually blends into a feather motiff directly behind the tang.

The locks were originally flint but converted to percussion. They are only 4 1/4 " long and bear a strong resemblance to the Jaeger lock shown on page 157 of Track of the Wolf Cat 16.

The wood around the locks is raised and ends in the typical "teardrop" at the rear of the locks

The stock is a light colored wood stained a dark brown.

The wood is in excellent condition; the metal has some light pitting and the right hand lock has some fairly heavy pitting.

The barrels are marked: B. Daisenberger in Minchen
The right lock is marked: B. Daisenberger.
The left is marked: In Minchen.

I was told several years ago (by whom, I can't remember) thar B. Daisenberger worked from 1760 to 1770.

I have not been able to find anything else about the gun or it's maker.

I'm hoping that some of you more knowledgable guys, or some of you guys over across the "Pond" could shed some light on this gun. I would sure like to know more about it!

Thanks in advance!

Dryball----or call me Ken
 
Your general description sounds about right for the time period you mention. Would speculate the word "Minchen" is actually "Munchen" or Munich in English. Will look through some of my library and see if I can find anything about the maker.
 
Dryball, you have a very interesting pistol. Both lock and barrel marked with the same builder. Original stock probably? Yes, Daisenberger (also sometimes spelled Daissenberger, Deisenperger) had first name Bartolomäus. Active in Munich, Bayern 1747-1777. He worked for the Bayrischen court. At that time Bayern was "Kurbayern" in that meaning the it was a principality among maybe 7-8 other parts in Germany. That gave the prince power to be among the 7-8 that could vote for emperor to the German-Roman emperor!! :shocked2:
Hope I have got this right. Possibly Undertaker will fill in on this.
Dryball, photos, PHOTOS, PHOTOS!!!! :bow:
ARILAR :grin: :thumbsup:
 
Arilar,
Thank you! Thank you! :bow: I knew that you would come thru with some info on this gun and it is certainly appreciated, believe me!
After reading your response I checked the spelling again and it is Daisenperger with a "P" instead of a "B". You really know your stuff!

I was wondering, since the gun is fairly plain with the exception of the carving on the stock (no engraving on the metal etc) and the number 1. on the tang would it be possible that this was one of a pair of traveling pistols? I bought it in Nuremberg (Nurnberg?) back in the early 60's, so we know that it traveled that far :grin:

PHOTOS: I do not have a digital camera and I'm new at using computers for anything other than Email. HOWEVER, I have a good friend who is very good at using a computer and knows all the "tricks" that don't come with the Users Manual and she has agreed to take many photos and send them to you and Plink. She still has a job so it will be done when she has the time, probably a few days or so (I'm retired :) so I'm ready any time!

I will get better with the computer............
BTW, your old flintlock pistol is really a nice looking gun. Looks like it shoots pretty good too.
My Daisenperger pistol is the only antique that I haven't fired. I kind of knew that it might be unique and was afraid of damaging it. I wouldn't know what powder charge to use anyhow.
This has been a long Post so I'd better shut up.
Be alert for the photos and...THANKS AGAIN!

Dryball...or Ken
 
dryball said:
the number 1. on the tang would it be possible that this was one of a pair of traveling pistols?
Most likely!!Waiting for the pics :)
ARILAR :grin: :thumbsup:
 
Arilar, Here the photos of the Daisenperger pistol. I hope they come thru---new at this sending photos. No help available among friends.
oldgermangun004.jpg
oldgermangun003.jpg
oldgermangun001.jpg
oldgermangun002.jpg
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oldgermangun005.jpg


If these get thru, I hope they are helpful. I'm interested in knowing what you think of the gun.

BTW, Zonie coached me thru this; thanks Zonie!! :bow:

Dryball
 
Hi,
I like it. A nice-looking piece with everything in original stand (beside the conversion of course). Dont reconvert the pistol! Always thrilling when you can date and place an object.
A keeper IMO.
Thanks for posting pictures :v
BTW, I really dont know so much about handguns but happens to have the book "Heer Der Neue Stöckel" that includes the names and places of thousands of gunmakers. In German languages unfortunately :(
ARILAR :grin: :thumbsup:
 
What a unique piece. The stock is very graceful for a gun of that size. Thanks for the pics. :)
 
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