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Not really a cannon but close. A wall gun (cannon) found in Arizona interesting story.
"The gun is an important artifact, and is no doubt the earliest known surviving firearm in the United States and one of, if not the earliest found in a reliable context in the New World," the researchers wrote.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oldest-known-firearm-u-unearthed-151851267.html
 
Not really a cannon but close. A wall gun (cannon) found in Arizona interesting story.
"The gun is an important artifact, and is no doubt the earliest known surviving firearm in the United States and one of, if not the earliest found in a reliable context in the New World," the researchers wrote.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oldest-known-firearm-u-unearthed-151851267.html
These are pretty iconic for the early 16th century in Europe, so its really cool to see one used in the New World. They are often called Doppelhaken and have a large range of size and weight.
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Illustrated examples from Maximillian's Armory, around 1502
https://www.loc.gov/item/2021667793/
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Not really a cannon but close. A wall gun (cannon) found in Arizona interesting story.
"The gun is an important artifact, and is no doubt the earliest known surviving firearm in the United States and one of, if not the earliest found in a reliable context in the New World," the researchers wrote.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/oldest-known-firearm-u-unearthed-151851267.html
A while back there was a full article about this gun in The American Rifleman mag. It showed the archaeologist who found it, etc. Very interesting story covering many years.
 
These are pretty iconic for the early 16th century in Europe, so its really cool to see one used in the New World. They are often called Doppelhaken and have a large range of size and weight.
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Illustrated examples from Maximillian's Armory, around 1502
https://www.loc.gov/item/2021667793/
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The article mentioned a "wooden tripod" which appears in that 2nd illustration from Maximillian's Armory
 
I wonder where they could find lead to cast shot or balls. And the possibility of a foundry here about the same time.

They probably had to recourse to using stone projectiles - lead in North America seems to be a Northern thing, you even have a town named after the stuff - Galena Illinois. I also found this article about native American usage that might be of interest, or not.


Hopewell Culture Galena​

Hopewell Culture National Historical Park

A white square box filled with small, square pieces of a gray/silver rock-shaped mineral.


A box filled with cuboidal pieces of galena, from the park's resource collection.
NPS Photo / Tom Engberg
Written by Park Guide Sarah Hinkelman


Galena’s unusual properties have made it a commonly used mineral throughout human history. It’s shiny, breaks apart into perfect cubes, and way heavier than it looks- no, it’s not a silver Rubik’s cube, it’s an octahedral mineral, galena!

Known as lead-sulfide (PbS), galena is a common mineral found throughout the world. Silver sometimes accompanies galena, offering a shine that is quite eye-catching. As the most common source of lead ore, galena has been used in eastern North America for about 8,000 thousand years by American Indians!

For the people of the Hopewell culture, galena was found at many of their sites- Hopewell Mound Group contained 200 pounds! Because galena is known for its high density, here’s a way to picture how heavy a small piece would be. If you had some galena that was about the size of a baseball, that galena-ball would feel more than ten times heavier! A typical baseball is almost one-third of a pound, the galena-ball would be about 3.4 pounds!

Galena was rarely found as intricately worked artifacts from 2,000 years ago. At most, the pieces were ground, showing shiny surfaces, probably from grinding into powder. In more recent history, American Indians had been known to use powdered galena as body paint or to throw into the sun, while some were known to have carried these silver stones. Similar to other exotic materials found at Hopewell sites, galena was not a locally mined material. Sourcing studies have determined much of the galena was from near Galena, Illinois--in the Upper Mississippi Valley. Nearby, pipestone sources have also been found, which strengthens the connection between this area and the Scioto River Valley.
 
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Deni gave a presentation on the status of her Coronado project a couple of years ago to members of the Jornada Research Institute, based in Tularosa, New Mexico. I was a member of the JRI board, and the institute is a financial supporter of Deni's work. Pretty fascinating stuff, and she included maps of the location of projectiles and other artifacts that told the story of fierce battles between the indigenous people and the Spaniards left to defend outposts on the trail.

https://www.deni-seymour.com/vasquez-de-coronado
 
I wonder where they could find lead to cast shot or balls. And the possibility of a foundry here about the same time.
It’s extremely unlikely they had a foundry to cast the gun here. It was still a somewhat advanced process back in Europe and after casting the gun barrel, they would need specialized tools to finish boring out the barrel. This shows an iron example, but it would be the same for bronze:
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Deni gave a presentation on the status of her Coronado project a couple of years ago to members of the Jornada Research Institute, based in Tularosa, New Mexico. I was a member of the JRI board, and the institute is a financial supporter of Deni's work. Pretty fascinating stuff, and she included maps of the location of projectiles and other artifacts that told the story of fierce battles between the indigenous people and the Spaniards left to defend outposts on the trail.

https://www.deni-seymour.com/vasquez-de-coronado
Lucky you! I bet it was interesting hearing the story from her.
 
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