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P-1837 Brunswick 2-groove rifle

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Blackfingers

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Anybody have one of these rifles? Most came from IMA as "found in Nepal". I have one never fired, put a fortune in it as far as getting parts from TRS, including the stock. Paid dearly for a pro to put it all together. Looking really nice, I got a good barrel with great rifling. Without a correct ball mold, doubt it'll shoot PRB very well. Any feedback on this very cool rifle?
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They shoot a "belted" round ball. The ball kind of looks like the planet Saturn and the belt fits the grooves of the bore.
 
The belted ball is one of those concepts where the theory and practice debate can really get going. In theory, the belted ball will engage the rifling, and a lubricated patch is not needed since the spin is imparted to the ball by the engraving of the lands on the belt. In addition, reloading the belted ball is faster than loading a patched round ball. In practice, fouling builds up quicker, the barrel is not leaded up since the lubricated patch separates the ball from the lands. A round ball with the sprue flattened does not require alignment as it is loaded. A lubricated patch will wipe fouling from the grooves so more shots can be fired before fouling builds up such that loading is difficult. A belted ball can encounter enough fouling shut that the belted ball will get stuck in the bore. I have had similar problems when I used unlubricated paper cartridges and after about five shots the fouling in my Bess was enough that it was difficult to ram a paper wrapped 0.715" ball down my 0.780" bore.

There is a reason why belted balls are not seen while conical bullets that engrave on the lands are sold.
 
Anybody have one of these rifles? Most came from IMA as "found in Nepal". I have one never fired, put a fortune in it as far as getting parts from TRS, including the stock. Paid dearly for a pro to put it all together. Looking really nice, I got a good barrel with great rifling. Without a correct ball mold, doubt it'll shoot PRB very well. Any feedback on this very cool rifle?View attachment 7917 View attachment 7920 View attachment 7919 View attachment 7918
The originals, were, I believe loaded with a belted ball and a greased patch. In fact the balls were issued with the greased patch attached and black dots to show the orientation of the belt. Jeff Tanners son would make you a mould for belted ball, but would probably need a cast of the barrel to get the right diameter. Some people have had reasonable luck shooting round ball with a thick patch and an over powder wad to give a better gas seal.
 
Thanks for all the replies. Will not send away for a ball mold, instead will use over powder card or felt wad, then a patched ball. not gonna be a heavy shooter, just want to get some use from the most expensive gun ever. BF
 
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