Pair of Belgian 1860 Army’s

[EDGE]

 

[EDGE]

Picked up my second Centaure 1860 army today. Now i have a pair. I thought i would have to search a while to find the second. My boss found it in his safe and was willing to sale it to me.

 

[Andrewmtnman]

Those are nice pistols. I just repaired and shot one. They feel and look great and you have TWO! Have you shot them?

 

[EDGE]

Those are nice pistols. I just repaired and shot one. They feel and look great and you have TWO! Have you shot them?

I have shot one. I just picked up the second today.

 

[45D]

they have short arbors . . .
just like all the rest . . .
Lol

Mike

 

[Whitworth]

Interesting guns, I've placed losing bids on a couple

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

My congrats, Edge, on your acquisition.
Interesting comment, 45D: I have checked - disassembled & reassembled - probably 100 or more of these Belgian Centaures during the last 20 years. None, repeat none had a short arbor. Let me have the serial number of the one you found, please, and I will add her with a subject comment to the Centaure data bank of www.1960nma.org.

 

[Andrewmtnman]

Not sure how to tell if it has a short arbor but I think my arbor is a tiny bit little loose after I shot it last

 

[EDGE]

Not sure how to tell if it has a short arbor but I think my arbor is a tiny bit little loose after I shot it last

Arbor is loose on my most recent purchase.

 

[Robby]

https://capandballrevolvers.com/pdf/Wedge_Adjustment_and_Short_Arbor_Repair.pdf

 

[Andrewmtnman]

https://capandballrevolvers.com/pdf/Wedge_Adjustment_and_Short_Arbor_Repair.pdf

Wow, that’s a fantastic piece of info! Thanks Robby

 

[Whughett]

Short arbors or deep holes. Seems the fix is to fill the hole with a spacer.

 

[45D]

My congrats, Edge, on your acquisition.
Interesting comment, 45D: I have checked - disassembled & reassembled - probably 100 or more of these Belgian Centaures during the last 20 years. None, repeat none had a short arbor. Let me have the serial number of the one you found, please, and I will add her with a subject comment to the Centaure data bank of www.1960nma.org.

That is interesting, can you post a pic of the witness mark in the bottom of the arbor hole where the arbor is touching?

Mike

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

Sorry Mike, what is a witness mark?
I am very much aware of Belgians with loose arbors and other maladies acquired during their five, six or more decades of use.
Which should not be surprising because the last specimens were assembled in early summer of 1973.
Long Johns Wolf

 

[45D]

Like this

It would be "evidence " of contact. My spacer installed in this barrel assy shows a circular "contact ring" of the arbor when installed.

Mike

 

[45D]

Likewise, there should be one on the end of the arbor as well.

Mike

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

Looks like a conversion to me.
Long Johns Wolf

 

[45D]

Sure it is but an Open Top is an Open Top is an Open Top. My customers guns as well as my own have evidence of contact of the arbor to the bottom of the arbor hole. They all use the same technology. I'm guessing yours don't have any evidence of contact.

Mike

 

[springfield art]

My congrats, Edge, on your acquisition.
Interesting comment, 45D: I have checked - disassembled & reassembled - probably 100 or more of these Belgian Centaures during the last 20 years. None, repeat none had a short arbor. Let me have the serial number of the one you found, please, and I will add her with a subject comment to the Centaure data bank of www.1960nma.org.

I've wondered, where these actually mfg. in a Belgium factory? Or just Italian marketed thru a Belgium company? Never had or seen one, just curious. You've got some real solid hands-on with these! Thanks.

 

[45D]

If it makes anybody feel any better, here is my 1st Mod. Dragoon with the same "indicator". It started out as a cap and ball revolver and I installed a Kirst gated conversion in it. So as stated, an Open Top is an Open Top . . .

Mike